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ch1ll1

posted on 10/6/06 at 06:51 AM Reply With Quote
new back end

hi all

at the moment I'm using a live axle set up
but am thinking about changing to another set up

where would be the best place to buy a kit
any what set up do you think is best !

cheers Paul

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JoelP

posted on 10/6/06 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
are you dissatisfied with the live axle, or just seeking to modernise?
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Gav

posted on 10/6/06 at 08:23 AM Reply With Quote
So you either want to go dedion or IRS?

Their are several options available, the dedion being the simplest option and probably quickest conversion, you can get the kit from GTS for about 150 iirc but check the website or give them a ring.
Also i think MK engineering used to do a dedion in kit form that you hade to weld up yourself or i think their are plans around somewhere to make it all yourself.

IRS wise Rorty's plans seem good and very detailed, you can get them from flakmonkeys site.
You could also adapt the IRS design from Tigers book plans.

The merits of IRS Vs Dedion have been discussed a lot if you do a search.

Personally i went with a dedion for simplicitys sake, maybe later i could convert to IRS if i decide thats what i want.

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ch1ll1

posted on 10/6/06 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
not dissatisfied just seeking to modernise
as i think the handling may be a little better
also for a better diff ratio

as my car just want to go side ways (which is fun)

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DIY Si

posted on 10/6/06 at 09:39 AM Reply With Quote
As said, de-dion will be much easier. IRS will require chassis mods to the rear end, whilst de-dion may well fit without, depending upon chassis and de-dion kit. Both have their own pros/cons, but personally I'm going de-dion since it's easier to make/install.
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Gav

posted on 10/6/06 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
mods will need to be made for a dedeion as the dedion tube would hit the undertray bars, their are some plans from GTS on flakmonkeys site that shows you what needs to be done, word of caution though, thyey are for GTS chassis not book, you can still make the undertray tubes to the dimensions however the rear bulkhead is 40mm higher so just cut the appropriate tubes to length rather than as stated in the plans
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procomp

posted on 12/6/06 at 07:30 AM Reply With Quote
Hi or just get your live axle set up properly with toe and camber and a few other small tricks and then apart from the slightly higher unsprung issue which can be sorted with dampers valved to suit you will have a perfectly good back end geo setup. Gearing will still be a issue tho if using a bike engine.

cheers matt

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