flyingkiwi
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:39 PM |
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Wishbones - The big ? To buy or to make?
Right,
I'm trying to work out what would be better, to buy the wishbones and all the rods, or to make them? I've been offered £35 for all the
steel to make them, but after reading some of the threads on here about geometry and stuff ( ) I'm a bit worried about the books
dimensions.
Would I be better off just buying them from the likes of Luego or making them? minding the fact that I cannot weld and would have to pay someone to do
it for me!
Cheers
Chris
It Runs!!!!! Bring on the SVA!
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:48 PM |
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If you cant weld, i would recommend buying them
However, as welding is such fun, i would also recommend learning that as well!
Bear in mind one hard bit is tapping a thread in the upper wishbone. (Watch someone recommend i learn how to do that now!)
Geometry isn't terribly hard if you make good jigs to hold all the pieces in place. A full set of bones and rods could be several hundred £ i
think?
I take it ur buying a chassis as well?
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andyps
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:49 PM |
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For what it is worth, my suggestion would be to buy them if you can't weld yourself - by the time you buy the steel and pay someone who has to
make jigs, cut the steel, weld it together etc. you would probably be just as well off buying them from someone who makes them regularly.
Only other factor to take into account is whether you want standard wishbones or need something slightly different.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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flyingkiwi
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:53 PM |
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I've managed to get hold of a chassis with all the brackets welded on it, which is a bonus.
Having spent most of the day surfing for prices the cheapest I've seen are the Stuart Taylor ones, but still running into £150. I would love to
learn to weld but my job has a nasty habit of sending me on little trips abroad.
I've made up the top wishbone jig according to the book and it looks right (which usually means it is) but its the bottom wishbones that have me
a bit worried, with the plate for the ball joint.
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 06:59 PM |
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I bought the upper front wishbones, which was easy enough! I'm making the bottom ones soon, not following the book so its wait and see if it
will work! The plate just welds onto the bones (easy), has holes drilled in it (easy), and is nicely lined up (not so easy). I think im gonna weld it
all up and then drill the holes, though that may be daft...
trailing rods should be simple if you can make them all identical length. Lots of file work! I'm using IRS so im saved (using sierra subframe
and arms!)
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flyingkiwi
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 07:06 PM |
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hmmmmm, might have a go making them then, there's a bloke at work that will weld some bits for me for a tenner, but might look at buying the
lower wishbones as I don't have any steel plate.
Hopefully when I've finished them will be able to pull the chassis out of the garage!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 09:36 PM |
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You can buy all you rear trailing arms directly from your local scrappy, The are 2 adjustable ones and 2 fixed ones attached to the rear of every
Nissan Bluebird, you can make an adjustable panhard rod by extending another one. They have 14mm bolt holes which is also worth considering.
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 09:57 PM |
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I made my wishbones as per book. It took me ages to make them. Really chuffed with the result, only to find that the top wishbone dimensions were
wrong. There is a thread somewhere that explains the book error. Chucked them in the "SCRAP BOX" and ordered some from MK.
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Stu16v
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| posted on 13/8/03 at 10:07 PM |
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quote:
I've managed to get hold of a chassis with all the brackets welded on it, which is a bonus.
That is assuming that the wishbones you are considering buying have the bushes in the same place, and with the correct sized holes as your chassis
brackets of course....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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Hornet
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 07:15 AM |
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Found this a few months back when i made mine, Can't remember where, but big thanks to whoever it was.
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flyingkiwi
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 09:15 AM |
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Thats a very good point about the chassis brackets, will have to find out.
Will also keep an eye out for a nissan bluebird!
Cheers for all the thoughts guys
Chris
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Steve Hnz
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 02:02 PM |
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Wish bones
Which model of bluebird would that be exactly. Front or rear drive?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 08:14 PM |
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Front wheel drive (was there a rear wheel drive?)
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Noodle
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| posted on 14/8/03 at 08:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Front wheel drive (was there a rear wheel drive?)
Bluebird's were RWD until the Joy Police replaced them with FWD in 1984-ish.
Neil.
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