Krismc
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:21 PM |
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Toe in, and other alignment settings?
Anyone, got a rough guide on how to adjust my toe in the garage,
You may have seen ive posted in the MNR section as my car is scary light at 50MPH, ive been advised to adjust the toe, not sure how or too what but
ill give it a go!!
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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RichardK
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:28 PM |
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I'd start by getting everything straight first, hang on I'll try a find some pictures how I did mine....
Cheers
Rich
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:29 PM |
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Your car needs four wheel alignment.
Rear toe is possibly more important than front, because if it's wrong, you can't steer around it.
You need a proper 4 wheel alignment by someone who understands what they're doing.
I've driven a car which had bad alignment and when the accident eventually came, it was only good luck that I squeezed between the road sign and
the lamp post.
Once I sorted the rear toe in, it was perfectly stable.
Seriously, don't just have a go.
If you're not sure what you're looking for, get proper 4 wheel alignment done by someone who does know what they're looking for.
[Edited on 27/3/11 by zilspeed]
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RichardK
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:33 PM |
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This is how I initially set mine up Linky which got me nearly there, then fine
tuned it, I would recommend getting it done professionally if you want it spot on.
Cheers
Rich
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:43 PM |
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Here's my guide which might inspire you 
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=75669
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Krismc
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
This is how I initially set mine up Linky which got me nearly there, then fine
tuned it, I would recommend getting it done professionally if you want it spot on.
Cheers
Rich
Cheers mate, its just been to mnr so its set up safe, it'd just id like to have a go myself, I can't afford a full setup yet and I
don't plan on driving like a tit.
Thanks
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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Krismc
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
Here's my guide which might inspire you
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=75669
Thanks
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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RichardK
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 07:51 PM |
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Eh, its already been set up at MNR and feels scary at 50mph??? Something doesn't seem right. You can use my technique to check how
they've set it up.
Cheers
R
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franky
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 08:08 PM |
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could you also put a meter long section of box against each disc(held on with a G-clamp), measure the distance between them in front of the car and
then near the end of the box section to get the wheels aligned straight, then adjust from there using a bit of trig to work out toe settings from a
baseline?
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austin man
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 08:22 PM |
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I used a laser level and a tape, Placed the level on the wheel and shone the level at the floor marking 300mm in front an 300mm behind each wheel with
chalk then measured between the marks on each side of the care . I then adjusted accordingly hope this makes sense. Car feels fine doesnt wander and
handles well enough
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Krismc
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 08:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
Eh, its already been set up at MNR and feels scary at 50mph??? Something doesn't seem right. You can use my technique to check how
they've set it up.
Cheers
R
It went for iva, and a few other things it was there a year, I'm sure they toe it out so that it self self centers at the test centre, then
reset it up afterwards to a nominal setting, but with part changes, wheel changes and all the 100s of new parts bedding in, the car has only done
30-50miles including being built.
[Edited on 28/3/11 by Krismc]
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Alfa145
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 09:27 PM |
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I've just improved my handling, I was expierencing the same as you, but I knew my toe was set to 0.5 in. It turns out I had no Rake (front to
rear reide height) once I wound the back up to have 22mm more than the front it completely transformed the handling and I didnt have the scarey 50mph+
issues. (thats 22mm without my lard arse in the seat)
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 09:40 PM |
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Oh - I'd forgotten that - I also had to set my rear about 0.5" or so higher than the front. You really don't want the front higher
than the back.
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/3/11 at 10:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alfa145
... but I knew my toe was set to 0.5 in.
If it handles at all with 0.5" toe I would be amazed! I hope you mean mm or degrees
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 28/3/11 at 08:07 AM |
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now let's add bump steer into the equation, under heavy acceleration/braking it has a wonderfull affect on toe in/out.
tony
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SPYDER
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| posted on 28/3/11 at 08:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by franky
could you also put a meter long section of box against each disc(held on with a G-clamp), measure the distance between them in front of the car and
then near the end of the box section to get the wheels aligned straight, then adjust from there using a bit of trig to work out toe settings from a
baseline?
We used a facsimile of this method for initial alignment of the rear suspension on our Phoenix. It only works if the car is at correct static ride
height with the weight being correctly supported by the car's springs. We used blocks of wood under the uprights. Don't try it with the
car jacked up.
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Alfa145
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| posted on 28/3/11 at 08:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
quote:
Originally posted by Alfa145
... but I knew my toe was set to 0.5 in.
If it handles at all with 0.5" toe I would be amazed! I hope you mean mm or degrees
Ah, a single missing word causing confusion...apologies...
... but I knew my toe was set to 0.5 Degrees in
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Krismc
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| posted on 28/3/11 at 03:03 PM |
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Ha ha, 25mm
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