skov
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 03:13 PM |
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Tyre Choice for 14" Rims
Hello All,
I'm currently still running on my donor tyres (4 different budget brands!) and with summer fast approaching I really ought to think about
replacing them.
What tyres would people suggest/recommend that are available in 14 inch?
The car's a Haynes Roadster.
Rims are 14x6"
I won't be doing any trackdays
I will be driving in damp/cold conditions
I'd like them to last at least 5000 miles, but ideally double that
I don't want to spend much more than £300 if I can help it!
Any ideas?
(I know I'd have far more choice if I swapped for 15" rims, but I quite like the wheels I've got, and can't really justify
buying a new set of rims.)
Thanks,
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theduck
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 03:40 PM |
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What tyre size do you run? Camskill have good selection.
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pmc_3
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 04:02 PM |
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If you can still get hold of them Yoko A539's would be a good bet
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 05:20 PM |
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Yokohama A021R. Should get 5k and good in the wet. Not sure you will get under £300, talk to George Polley as they seem to be cheapest.
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snapper
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 06:42 PM |
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I got a set of Yoko's CF1's work well but do need a very hard drive to get warm
You can't realy get them warm enough on the road
Well you can but you shouldn't and people notice and not in a good way
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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skov
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 07:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I got a set of Yoko's CF1's work well but do need a very hard drive to get warm
You can't realy get them warm enough on the road
Well you can but you shouldn't and people notice and not in a good way
That's what worries me about 'road legal' track tyres.
I've never had any on a car, but I used to use Dragon Supercorsa's on my trackbike, and there's no way I would have used them on the
road.
The grip was phenomenal when warm, but they were leathal when cold and took some warming up.
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snapper
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 07:23 PM |
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Don't get me wrong there good in normal driving, better than your average road tyre but better when warm
In wet and cold the light 7 type is always challenging when compared with a front wheel drive euro box with traction and anti fun
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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skov
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 08:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theduck
What tyre size do you run? Camskill have good selection.
I'm currently running 185/60-14, but there's no reason I couldn't switch to a different width/profile.
Would I be better off sticking with 185's or going for 195 or 205?
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jeffw
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 09:01 PM |
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Yokohama CF1 are normal budget tintop tyres. Get a set of A021s
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skov
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 09:15 PM |
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That's 2 votes for A021R
The George Polley price was looking good until VAT was added 
Might have to up my budget...
Am I really going to get 5k out of them though? They seem to be sold as a wet track tyre which gives me the impression they'd be knackered much
quicker than that!
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TimC
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| posted on 10/3/14 at 09:50 PM |
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They aren't exactly top of the trackdayers' Christmas lists but I've had a couple of sets of Continental Premium Contact 5s on our
MX-5 and they are bloody brilliant all-round tyres. They might be worth a look at £256 fitted according to Black Circles.
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skov
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| posted on 11/3/14 at 05:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pmc_3
If you can still get hold of them Yoko A539's would be a good bet
These are looking like my current favourite 
After much umming and arring I've decided against the A021R (and any other track orientated tyres).
My reasons being:
I don't plan to do any track days, and I doubt I drive hard enough on public roads to warrant that level of grip.
I'm tight and don't really want to spend £400 on a set of tyres (and especially on a set of tyres that won't last very long).
I'm hoping to do some autosolos and 1b tyres aren't allowed.
So after much research I've narrowed it down to the following options that are available in 14":
Toyo T1R (195/55-14 or 195/45-14)
Kumho KH31 (185/55-14)
Yoko A539 (185/50-14 or 195/45-14)
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TimC
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| posted on 11/3/14 at 09:48 PM |
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I've run T1Rs and A539s in the past. Contis are better.
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skov
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| posted on 11/3/14 at 10:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by TimC
I've run T1Rs and A539s in the past. Contis are better.
Hmm, I might have to reconsider them now.
Just had a quick look at some reviews, and a lot are complaining about them wearing out quickly, so they must be fairly sticky 
They're significantly cheaper than the T1Rs and A539s too!
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skov
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| posted on 13/3/14 at 10:44 PM |
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Arrgggghhh, think I'm going mad, all I can see is tyres... Spent faaaaaar too long looking into this and just going round in circles.
My conclusion is 14" wheels suck 
After lots of reading up I'm going to stick with 185/60's. I don't really want to go any lower profile than that, and I don't
have the power to justify anything wider and certainly don't want wider on the front.
So the choices now are (with prices from blackcircles, include fitting):
Toyo Proxes CF1 - £205
Falcon ZE-914 - £206
Dunlop Sport BluResponse - £218
Dunlop SP Sport FastResponse - £226
Uniroyal RainExpert - £231
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance - £234
Bridgeston Turanza ER300 - £238
Continental Premium Contact 5 - £256
None of them particularly sporty!
Best price I can find the Yoko A021's is £384 from George Polley, but I'd still have to pay for fitting on top of that (local place quoted
£15 per tyre  ), and they're on the 1b list anyway.
Long term I think I'm going to have to invest in a set of 13 or 15" rims, but for now I'll just pick something off the list above to
get me through the summer. Any of them is going to be an improvement over the mismatch I have now!
I think I'll probably go with either the Conti's or the Dunlops. Has anyone used any of the above tyres on a 7?
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Grimsdale
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 12:38 PM |
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Vredestein Sportrac 5 seem to be well reviewed and are available in 185/60/14, but i don't know how good they are in reality. My local garage
had them at £54 a tyre.
[Edited on 21/3/14 by Grimsdale]
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skov
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Grimsdale
Vredestein Sportrac 5 seem to be well reviewed and are available in 185/60/14, but i don't know how good they are in reality. My local garage
had them at £54 a tyre.
[Edited on 21/3/14 by Grimsdale]
Thanks Grimsdale,
I had considered those and thought they looked like a good option. However they dropped off my shortlist as I couldn't seem to find anywhere
local that supplied/fitted them
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owelly
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:07 PM |
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I can get the following:
Toyo CF1:£160
Uniroyal Rain Expert: £160
Toyo Proxe NE: £170
Avon ZT5: £200
These are just a few that I've supplied recently but if there are any tyre you want me to get a price for, let me know. I only use one supplier
and sometimes the prices are no better than Black Circle/Mytyre/Ebay but worth checking!!
I can get them delivered direct to you so we don't pay any carriage. These are trade prices to me so I'll expect a couple of quid beer
money too!!
You'll still have to pay to get them fitted, unless you want a trip to the seaside...
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Grimsdale
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:13 PM |
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somewhere like camskill an option and get them fitted locally?
I have the contis on the missus' fiesta - they have a very open tread pattern which strikes me as good for the wet but not as much rubber in
contact with the road for dry grip.
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owelly
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:21 PM |
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I can get the Conti Premium Contact 5 for £50 each.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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skov
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Grimsdale
somewhere like camskill an option and get them fitted locally?
I had been trying to avoid that as my local place wanted £60 to fit a set if I supplied them myself
Saying that though, a set of 4 Vredestein Sportrac 5's are £172.76 delivered from Camskill. If I add £60 for fitting they're in the same
ball park as the others I was looking at.
Only problem is trying to squeeze a set of 4 tyres into the passenger foot well
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
I can get the following:
Toyo CF1:£160
Uniroyal Rain Expert: £160
Toyo Proxe NE: £170
Avon ZT5: £200
These are just a few that I've supplied recently but if there are any tyre you want me to get a price for, let me know. I only use one supplier
and sometimes the prices are no better than Black Circle/Mytyre/Ebay but worth checking!!
I can get them delivered direct to you so we don't pay any carriage. These are trade prices to me so I'll expect a couple of quid beer
money too!!
You'll still have to pay to get them fitted, unless you want a trip to the seaside...
That's probably a bit further than I'm prepared to travel to get a set of tyres fitted
I'd be interested to know how much you could get a set of Vredestein Sportrac 5's for 
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ashg
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:28 PM |
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personally i wouldnt run any of those other than the A021's
my current favourite are the Toyo R1R but you will have to swap to 15's to run them. there was a chap in my local club that was in the same
position as you. In the end he swapped from 14's to a nice set of second hand 15's with toyo R1R's for less than the cost of the
A021's in 14".
14" tyres are just to expensive, if you don't do it now, it will just be the same problem next time you need tyres.
edit. go find a part worn tyre place they will normally charge between £5-7 a corner to fit an balance.
[Edited on 21/3/2014 by ashg]
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owelly
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:28 PM |
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Vredestein
Sportrac 5
185/60 R14 82H BSW
Summer tyres
Label: E B 70 dB
DEX: (3.53)
Our price £35.60+vat
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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DW100
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:37 PM |
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I think the New Caterham 160 is running 14" Avon ZV5s
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owelly
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| posted on 21/3/14 at 01:46 PM |
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Imho, I would avoid tyres that list wet weather performance as a primary attribute as although they will get warm quick, they'll overheat and
wear out quick too. I'm guessing you won't be spending too much time driving in the rain?!
I fitted a set of Avon ZT5s to my mates MX5 and he thinks they're great.
[Edited on 21/3/14 by owelly]
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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