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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
Wilwood master cylinder plumbing

Right, I'm in a bit of a pickle and unsure how to proceed

The pic below is the master cylinder with the supplied gold colour fitting then a male 3/8 brake fitting, when screwed in the male fitting is only in by 1 1/2 turns, which I'm not happy with





My plan is to use a different flare to suit the cylinder and miss out the gold fitting, is there any reason why I can't do this? Also I will need a longer male fitting as the hole is quite deep



I'm guessing the gold fitting is maybe to protect the aluminium cylinder from having brake pipes screwed in and out but I'm unsure





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Dingz

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:14 PM Reply With Quote
I suspect the willwood is an imperial fitting and you have a zinc plated adaptor to take a metric tube nut.





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
No its 3/8 unf both sides, the silver fitting is a 3/8 male fitting





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Doctor Derek Doctors

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote
Are you sure that the gold coloured Wildwood adaptor is not an adaptor for fitting a banjo? That's what it looks like to me.





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blakep82

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote
I reckon that gold colour bit is an imperial to metric (m10 I think?) Adapter





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blakep82

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
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No its 3/8 unf both sides, the silver fitting is a 3/8 male fitting


What would be the point of that? I think m10 OR a convex to concave adapter





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adithorp

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
Pretty sure the Wilwood master is metric. The adapter is metric both sides but a single flare to double flare adapter (never worked out why you'd want one). Lose it and make a pipe with m10x1 union and a single (convex) flare.

An m10x1 wil screw into a unf but will be a sloppy fit. A unf union will only go in a couple of threads in a metric hence yours binding up.

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Doctor Derek Doctors

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Wildwood is 'murican, its all imperial. Also you have your M10 and UNF mixed up. 3/8 unf will scew sloppily into an M10 female thread as 3/8 major OD is 9.525mm, M10 major OD is bigger so it won't screw into a 3/8 unf female thread.

The adaptor might be for an 1/8npt fitting, Wildwood love that size, its what the calipers are.





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
Are you sure that the gold coloured Wildwood adaptor is not an adaptor for fitting a banjo? That's what it looks like to me.


No it's got a convex seat in the bottom



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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
I reckon that gold colour bit is an imperial to metric (m10 I think?) Adapter


No it's definitely 3/8 both ends





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Rosco86
No its 3/8 unf both sides, the silver fitting is a 3/8 male fitting


What would be the point of that? I think m10 OR a convex to concave adapter


That could be why, concave to convex



[Edited on 30/8/15 by Rosco86]





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Pretty sure the Wilwood master is metric. The adapter is metric both sides but a single flare to double flare adapter (never worked out why you'd want one). Lose it and make a pipe with m10x1 union and a single (convex) flare.

An m10x1 wil screw into a unf but will be a sloppy fit. A unf union will only go in a couple of threads in a metric hence yours binding up.

[Edited on 30/8/15 by adithorp]


Yeah it's all 3/8 as the doctors said below





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
Wildwood is 'murican, its all imperial. Also you have your M10 and UNF mixed up. 3/8 unf will scew sloppily into an M10 female thread as 3/8 major OD is 9.525mm, M10 major OD is bigger so it won't screw into a 3/8 unf female thread.

The adaptor might be for an 1/8npt fitting, Wildwood love that size, its what the calipers are.




Yeah that's right deff 3/8, it's not npt, also if it was npt would it have a convex seat in the bottom?





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Rosco86

posted on 30/8/15 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
It's not fine enough for npt, the problem is that the adapter doesn't have much thread and not very deep so once you've got you brake flare on the end of your fitting your left with two turns and it's tight, just doesn't seem enough for me to feel it's safe





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Rosco86

posted on 31/8/15 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
I've done what I said in the end, if anyone has any other ideas let me no







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