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Northy

posted on 9/8/05 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
What axle is this?

What axle is this guys?
Is it an Escort? MkI or MkII?[pg=]





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nick205

posted on 9/8/05 at 07:22 AM Reply With Quote
What's that then Northy?

Is it a pony trap?

(no idea what the axle is from by the way)

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JAG

posted on 9/8/05 at 07:40 AM Reply With Quote
Looks like a Mk1 or Mk2 Escort but the Salisbury axle rather than the 'English' type axle.

The diff' is fitted from the back, through that cover plate rather than from the front like the more common type.





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timf

posted on 9/8/05 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
atlas axle as fitted to capris and cortinas
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Danozeman

posted on 9/8/05 at 02:17 PM Reply With Quote
Looks like capri salisbury to me.





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Northy

posted on 9/8/05 at 05:37 PM Reply With Quote
Is there any way to tell if its from an Escort or Cortina? Will measuring it help?

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davidwag

posted on 10/8/05 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
yes,

Cortinas with that type of axle (MK III ,IV + V)had big lumps cast into them on the top by the diff for void bushes.

Probably Capri

David

P.S. Its fitted upside down!!!

[Edited on 10/8/05 by davidwag]

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Northy

posted on 11/8/05 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
So then guys, are we sure its Capri?

Just two more questions:

1. How easy is a disk brake conversion?
2. Is it easy to fit a handbrake?





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NS Dev

posted on 11/8/05 at 11:59 AM Reply With Quote
Yes, its a capri axle. They are collectively known by various terms (Atlas, Salisbury etc) and are available in several widths.

The most common will be std mk 2 and 3 capri width. Mk1 3 ltr capris used a narrower version, usually known as a "baby atlas" in escort rally circles and these are sought after as they fit under the std escort arches.

For brakes, everything is dead easy as it's all available off the shelf from either Rally Design or CapriSport, both disc conversions and handbrake arrangements are all off-the-shelf.

Upside - it's VERY strong, more so than you'll ever need in a 7

Downside - it's VERY heavy, more so by a fair margin than the escort axle.

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Northy

posted on 11/8/05 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for that.

It's on a guy from works trike, and I've been roped into helping fit rear disks and a handbrake!





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jack trolley

posted on 11/8/05 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
Can you ask him where he got those lights?
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Mark Allanson

posted on 11/8/05 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
It probably is a capri, but could be a Mk1 granada. The Rear plate seems to be on upsidedown, there are no anti roll bar mounts and it seems to be quite wide.

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NS Dev

posted on 12/8/05 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
MK 1 Granada Mark??????

Thought you new better than that!!!!!!

All granadas from day 1 were independent rear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Peteff

posted on 12/8/05 at 09:55 AM Reply With Quote
All granadas from day 1 were independent rear

The 3 Mk1's I worked on all had solid axles but were 5 stud flanges like the P100. The breather on the one in the picture is pointing down at the floor, not a good idea.

[Edited on 12/8/05 by Peteff]





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britishtrident

posted on 12/8/05 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
MK1 Grandad all had semi-trail arms even the cut price Consul GT much loved by the fuzz -- get your kegs on yout knickec we're the Sweeney and ain't had our dinner.

If it has 5 studs Could also be off a Mk2 Transit --- Transits used heavy duty versions just about any of the Ford axle types epending on size, year, and which factory built it.

looking at the pic It would be a good idea to plug the axle breather and fit one on the top of the axle.

[Edited on 12/8/05 by britishtrident]

[Edited on 12/8/05 by britishtrident]

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NS Dev

posted on 12/8/05 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
The 3 Mk1's I worked on all had solid axles but were 5 stud flanges like the P100. The breather on the one in the picture is pointing down at the floor, not a good idea.

[Edited on 12/8/05 by Peteff]


ehh??

I have only worked on one but it had trailing arms (with 5 stud hubs incidentally), as Britishtrident mentioned!

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Peteff

posted on 12/8/05 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
It was years ago but I'm pretty sure they used the same setup as the Cortina. They were estates my mate used as work vans on his tv aerial business.





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NS Dev

posted on 12/8/05 at 12:18 PM Reply With Quote
Unless the estates were different........

certainly all the granadas, from straight after the Zodiac (which I hasten to add I can't remember!) used IRS, it was a key selling point!

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britishtrident

posted on 12/8/05 at 04:24 PM Reply With Quote
Even Zodiac and Zephyr also had IRS in the MK4 incarnation. The MK4 was a truly awful car it did Fords reputation a lot of damage luckily the Vauxhall Viscount was almost as bad and Humber gave up making big cars back in 67.
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NS Dev

posted on 13/8/05 at 07:28 AM Reply With Quote
ahhhhhh, I never knew that! Bit before my time, but IRS must have been pretty rare then I assume!
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britishtrident

posted on 13/8/05 at 07:46 AM Reply With Quote
Only on the MK4. MK3 and also I think Mk2 were english axles.

On the Mk 4 particularly in the V4 version the engine sat right at the back of the engine bay with about 6 foot clear space to the front of the car. The centre section of the floor pan was mk2 Cortina.
http://www.users.onaustralia.com.au/DANART/Main%20Photo%20page.htm

The early version of the v6 and v4 were so bad that stripped timming wheels were common on 20,000 milers, head gaskets blew and quite often the big ends and also the little ends would knock party due to the crap dropped in the sump by the fibre tiiming gears. The swinging caliper rear disc brakes also gave a lot of agro.

[Edited on 13/8/05 by britishtrident]

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Peteff

posted on 13/8/05 at 11:45 AM Reply With Quote
Just a question on the original topic

Why the heck does he want to fit disk brakes to a trike rear axle? Put a brick on the back brake pedal and leave it in gear to stop it rolling away or tie the front lever back .





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Rorty

posted on 14/8/05 at 03:33 AM Reply With Quote
I agree with Peteff; advise your mate not to put discs on the rear, but instead put twin discs on the front with late model 4 or 6 pot calipers....unless, of course, you have something against him!





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NS Dev

posted on 15/8/05 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
good point!!
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Northy

posted on 15/8/05 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
I would have thought you'd want more breaking on the rear of a trike. If you lock the front wheel, won't it just tend to go straight on?

Am I wrong?





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