NS Dev
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 11:43 AM |
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Argghhh bl**dy wheels
Job of the night last night was the get the wheels on properly, and that's where it all went wrong, bear with me there is a question at the end
of this explanation!
First off, I am (well was) using 1.9 205 pug gti alloys on the 7. (as I already had a good set or two laying around)
These firstly require very thin spigot rings, a pain to make but no problem. Then they need sleeve nuts to fit them to ford hubs. You cant get the
right size sleeve nut off the shelf, so I bought a set of 5/8" sleeve bolts from rally design and turned them down to fit the wheels and
shortened the sleeve slightly to tighten without binding up on the unthreaded part of the studs.
Then the fun began! I found that some of the nuts bound up before they were tight, and to cut a long story short, the crappy nuts from rally design
are all threaded to slightly different depths (by up to 3mm different!) so some bind up and some don't.
I know I can shorten the wheel studs slightly but for various reasons I don't want to.
This then all reminded me that the pug wheels are flipping heavy, and don't have much inset so they will increase steering kickback.
Then I thought about just using some sierra alloys which would make life much easier and are lighter etc plus smaller diameter which I would like.
BUTTTTTTT.............
I tried a std late sierra alloy on the rear and it fouls the coilover!!!! arghhhh! Std Stuart taylor IRS is not compatiblen with std sierra 14"
alloy wheel it would seem, bloody brilliant!
No "std" 13" wheels seem to clear the brakes!!!
What it seems that I need is a 13" wheel (or failing that a 14" that will clear a sierra std rear disc setup, that fits ford hub centres
and pcd, with the same offset as 1.9 pug gti alloys!!!
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rayward
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 11:48 AM |
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what about
THESE
Ray
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 11:49 AM |
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So where's the question?? 
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 11:53 AM |
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you can't get the thread chased out a bit deeper on the short threaded nuts can you?
maybe not though, are they formed as opposed to cut?
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Marcus
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 12:21 PM |
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14" RWD offset 5 spoke revolutions. IMO the nicest wheels money can buy
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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ned
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 12:30 PM |
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I fitted capri 2.8i 7 spoke 13x7's to my sierra rear end. they are very low offset and stuck out of my arches but with a little tweaking of the
handbrake mechanism they did clear the discs and calipers. planning on getting some cxr's when I have some money.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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MikeR
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 12:36 PM |
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You could always change to using drums at the rear.......
no problems then!
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 01:36 PM |
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We both have the same problem. I wanted to use the Peugeot wheeld because i have them but actually, they are more trouble than they are worth.
Stuart Taylor sell Minilite style alloys in 14" with an ET 23 offset which I think will be ideal. I believe Sierra wheels are ET35 or 40, the
same as front wheel drive Mondeo so probably would do nothing to enhance the steering of our cars.
I am going to bite the bullet and order the Minilites.
John
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Wadders
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 01:50 PM |
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I moved the top shock mount in slightly, for the same reason, when running wheels of ET38 but found with lower tyre pressures or with a passenger, the
tyres rubbed the side of the chassis under hard cornering. Also as stated the car handles much better with a smaller offset, ST recommended ET 19 to
me, i now have even less than that ET-5 on the back, which increases track quite a lot. The other thing is when you go to a lower number offset it
gives more clearance for the brakes, so you might find 13" wheels will fit.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 4/8/06 at 02:49 PM |
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Is the space needed to much to use a spacer?? I wouldnt go more than 10mm though.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 5/8/06 at 11:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
I moved the top shock mount in slightly, for the same reason, when running wheels of ET38 but found with lower tyre pressures or with a passenger, the
tyres rubbed the side of the chassis under hard cornering. Also as stated the car handles much better with a smaller offset, ST recommended ET 19 to
me, i now have even less than that ET-5 on the back, which increases track quite a lot. The other thing is when you go to a lower number offset it
gives more clearance for the brakes, so you might find 13" wheels will fit.
Cheers folks.
Sounds like you have gone through the same as me Wadders! Looks like the pug gti wheels are ET19 so think I will look out for some 14" et19
wheels to make the brake issue easy to solve!
If I can't find any quickly then I will speak to Ian Gray!
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ned
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| posted on 5/8/06 at 08:02 PM |
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Nat,
i believe minator (minilite) 14"x6.5" from a dedion caterham are et17/23 as i have a set.
Ned
beware, I've got yellow skin
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NS Dev
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 11:49 AM |
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don't fancy selling em do you?
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ned
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 12:01 PM |
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could do but would require reasonable copmensation for them as I'd have to replace them will drop you a u2u..
beware, I've got yellow skin
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chriscook
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| posted on 9/8/06 at 12:12 PM |
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I had the same problems on my Phoenix - I ended up with the Caterham 8-spoke antracite 13" wheels they are ET24 and light. Not very expensive
either - and Caterhma midlands are not far down the road from you.
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