splitrivet
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 09:34 AM |
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New Zeemeride Shocks they dont F**king fit
Just a warning the new zeemeride shocks Lolocost are selling are too long.
Although I could get the front ones to fit Ive got a feeling Im gonna have to remount the front top bracket after Ive fitted the wheels and dropped
the car off the axle stands to readjust ride height.The rears however are way too long with the axle resting on the chassis the springs would still
need nearly 2 inches of compression.Ive taken the axle out to remove the bottom bracket and Im
hoping they'll fit with a longer bolt fitted
thru the top trailing arm mount as the lower fitting point.
To be fair to Lolocost they did warn at the Newark show where they were selling them that they were different from previously supplied zeemeride
shocks (which a mate of mine bought and were fine) and to make sure they were fit for the purpose but there again they are selling em for locost
fitment so why sell something that they know wont do the bleeding job.They were cheap(£150) but like the man said yer pays yer money....
Bob
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Findlay234
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 09:57 AM |
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Well ive got the old kind and i knew they had an imperial measurement for the bore of the bush so i called them up to find out what it was. They told
me then that i had the old kind when id measured ~9.5mm on the calipers (3/8). So i then asked what had changed between the two and the woman from
loloquali..... said it was just the bush.... hmm sounds like they were trying to make a sale out of me even though they knew the size had
changed................. bas****s. Oh BTW mine fit though i havent fully put in the rears, still waiting for my half shafts.........
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ChrisW
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 11:02 AM |
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Findlay
I've got a pair of half shafts you can have. Just pop over and pick them up.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Findlay234
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 11:07 AM |
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Are they shortened?
chrisW: Nope
Findlay234: Its ok mate they need to be shortened for the velocity. Ive got some half shafts, its just luego were gonna send me the half shafts
with the chassis in march.....
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 01:21 PM |
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I have 'old' lolo zeemers and they are 3/8 bushes.
I have had probs getting bolts (not screws) to fit and will use a reamer to take em out to 10mm when I fit em.
My rears are 'book' and I recon about an inch too short.
I need longer ones - id be willing to swap if yours are an inch or so longer - never been used.
atb
steve
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 01:31 PM |
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I bought my suspension bolts from an aircraft supplier - expensive, but I got exactly the length of unthreaded shank that I needed.
The bolts are certified AN quality (i.e. very high grade) and cadmium plated. Available in metric or UNC/UNF (can't remember which, but probably
UNF). The diameter is to a tight tolerance, as well.
Some people may think that this is an extravagance, but there are some bits of the car I want to be certain about!
cheers,
David
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splitrivet
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 04:05 PM |
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Thats fine by me Steve I'll measure the length when I get home tonight.Pointless you having em if thier no good for you as well.I agree I think
aircraft quality is the way to go for suspension bolts, remembering back from my microlighting days Mainair are a reasonably priced supplier.
Bob
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jonti
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 05:05 PM |
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Bob
I got zeemers last year for my lolo chassis ( which is 2" taller than book) and they were a bit on the short side for the rear. Solved it by
making a spacer out of some square section. HOWEVER, it occurs to me that yours might suit me and mine might suit you (sir) Once you've checked
how long yours are (oo er missus) when uncompressed, if you cant sort anything out with Steve let me know ? I'm in Stoke too so maybe we could
do an easy swap, sort you out and I can throw me spacers away.
[Edited on 1/7/03 by jonti]
OFROK
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paulf
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 09:12 PM |
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Steve I get all my UNF bolts from carrington bearings on the telford way estate. If your worried about strength then buy cap screws as they are
generally 12 grade and very tough.
Paul.
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Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
I have 'old' lolo zeemers and they are 3/8 bushes.
I have had probs getting bolts (not screws) to fit and will use a reamer to take em out to 10mm when I fit em.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 1/7/03 at 09:13 PM |
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thanks paul.
I usually get my bolts either from work - lots of stainless less than and including 10mm.
Others I buy from a fasteners company in wellingbourough on the finedon rd estate
atb
steve
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splitrivet
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 09:04 AM |
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After a quick measure up the zeemers are roughly 14 inch between bolt centres, which means the book is well out cos thats the size that Ron said to
use but if you notice in the book the lower mounting point is virtually touching the axle.I should just get away with it by using the upper swing arm
bolt as the bottom mount but there again this means that the thru bolt wont fit into the shockers bush tube (why didnt I just take up cake decoration
instead).
So I think they'll probably be too long for you Steve but just right for you Jonti.
Bob
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 10:33 AM |
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they would probably be ok, but as you and jonti are in the same town, it would make sense for the pair of you to do a swap instead of us hassling over
sending stuff in the post.
cheers
steve
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splitrivet
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 10:36 AM |
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OK Steve,it'd probably cost about fifteen quid to post em out with em being so heavy anyroad.
Bob
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:26 AM |
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its not as expensive as you think.
parcelforce ship a kilo for about 3 quid and 30 kilos for a tenner. I recon you would be looking at about 7 - 8 quid.
When I have ordered fibreglass stuff weighing about 35 kilos, it costs only 12 quid or so. Lots of suppliers - lolocost is a good example - pump up
their shipping costs to make money on the parts they are supposed to be selling cheap. Just look at lolos posting prices. way out.
atb
steve
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:32 AM |
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Vehicle Wiring Products are similar - I wanted one of their switches, worth £1.50, and P&P was £3.50, non-negotiable! I declined their generous
offer...
I bought a similar item from Premier Wiring and paid about 75p for them to send it in a padded envelope.
DJ
[Edited on 2/7/03 by David Jenkins]
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kingr
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I bought my suspension bolts from an aircraft supplier - expensive, but I got exactly the length of unthreaded shank that I needed.
Out of curiousity how much did they cost. I bought my suspension bolts from a local engineering place, and for 24x M10x90mm, 4x M12x100mm and 2x
M10x190mm (all bar the M10x190mm were cap head) was about £50 which seems a lot. How does it compare with you?
Kingr
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:40 AM |
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Cheaper at around £45, but as they came from the US of A, I got stung by HM Customs & Excise. Then the carrier charged me a stupid price for
dealing with the customs man. 
Ended up paying around £60, I think.
Damn fine quality, though! 
DJ
[Edited on 2/7/03 by David Jenkins]
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kingr
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:54 AM |
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Hmm, dammit, did get ripped off then, just as I thought. And half the things were the wrong frikking spec. Where did you get your from BTW?
Kingr
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 11:56 AM |
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I'll get back to you on that one - the catalogue's at home!
DJ
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splitrivet
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 01:28 PM |
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Try Mainair thier up in rochdale they build microlight aircraft all bolt sizes are available they dont show there parts catalogue on line but I think
they'd mail one out, the one Ive gots pretty ancient all nuts bolts are ultra high tensile,hydrogen de-embrittled cadmium plated.The thing you
have to worry about is buying from an engineers merchant is the specification may be way out even to motor manufacturers standard. I lost one of my
lower ball joint nuts when I went round to my local fasteners supply place for a replacement the guy there said if it were him he'd buy it from
the ford dealers as spec would be far higher and he'd feel safer.
At least you would feel fully safe if the same bolt you were using was holding a plane together!!!!
Bob
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jonti
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 05:17 PM |
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Bob
Mine are 12.5" between bolt hole centres uncompressed. Blue springs. will that do you ? 14" looks about what I need.
If you want to proceed email me on: jt.jones@lineone.net and we'll sort out the swap.
cheers
J.J
OFROK
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Peteff
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 05:44 PM |
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The blue springs are the 275lb ones for the front on the ones I bought a couple of years back. The red are 180s for the rear according to lolocost. Is
that what he was after?.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 05:50 PM |
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according to lolo, the springs are 180 rear, 220 front.....
atb
steve
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LoCostLancs
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 06:59 PM |
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Okay guys, i bought some of these Zeems at the last show from Lolocost, he assured me that they would fit blue on front red on back, took bloody ages
to get the back ones to fit, and the rear axles is only a couple of mill from touching the chassis, is this right, I believe the shocks have to
'settle' after a few 100 miles but im still worried the examiner at the SVA will fail my car, what do i do!?!?
Tiger? No thanks!
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jonti
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| posted on 2/7/03 at 07:47 PM |
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In my ignorance of spring rates and the B*stards at RHE !!!!! I was supplied with and accepted four blue ones. Are these not right then ? The car
seems to sit ok with all the big lumps in (including me and I'm a big lad 16stone so will blue on the back be ok ?
OFROK
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