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beaver34

posted on 31/8/11 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
Bleeding brakes

How do people do it?

I've one in my kit car, carnt get the air out of it! It's on twin cylinders so rear has it's own master that then Leeds to the handbrake then out to the rear brakes

Thanks

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deltron63

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
I always use a eezi bleed
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beaver34

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deltron63
I always use a eezi bleed


Mine won't fit on the master cylinder

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mark chandler

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
Gravity

Brake caliper turned so the nipple is at the absolute top and loose then wait.

It also helps if you have the wheel cylinders pushed tightly in as there is less fluid or air to displace, if you have a little air pocket then gently tapping the caliper will help to dislodge this and the bubble will rise.

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gavin174

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
you should always start with the biggest fluid capacity furthest away from master cylinder

normally the nsf.. then osf then furthest rear and nearest rear...

the best way to bleed it if you have the patience is to gravity bleed..





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macc man

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
This seems to be a common problem with rear calipers. On mine the calipers were reversed so the nipple was at the bottom.
I had to remove it to bleed it as described in last post. Worked a treat.






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beaver34

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
Mines at the top,

Fronts fine But the rear is a nightmare,

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gavin174

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
how is it plumbed to handbrake / rear brakes?





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gavin174

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
are you running rear discs or drums..

what flexi pipes you running at the rear?





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beaver34

posted on 31/8/11 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
Run braided line into rear of the handbrake, then out of handbrake to rear split then to rear, is on Sierra discs
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Ben_Copeland

posted on 1/9/11 at 05:51 AM Reply With Quote
Well you certainly have made it tricky for yourself.

Intergral masters you cant easibleed and hydraulic handbrake thats going to be a pain to gravity feed.

cant you do it the old fashioned way and get someone to pump the brakes...?





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britishtrident

posted on 1/9/11 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
Effectively by fitting a hydraulic hand brake you have created a dead leg in the system with no way to bleed it, best way round it is to insert a Tee piece into the line going from the hand brake master cylinder (close to the cylinder) and screw a bleed nipple into the 3rd leg of the tee. You can then bleed this using the single stroke method, open the nipple (don't open too far) operate the hand brake, and with the handbrake still on close the nipple, then repeat 3 or 4 times.

Then do the same for the foot brake.

[Edited on 1/9/11 by britishtrident]

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beaver34

posted on 1/9/11 at 07:11 AM Reply With Quote
I've bleed nipple on the handbrake itself, I'll have another Play this week see what happens
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Mr Whippy

posted on 1/9/11 at 07:11 AM Reply With Quote
I thought for the IVA or even the MOT the handbrake must be mechanical not hydraulic? or is this a race car?






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beaver34

posted on 1/9/11 at 07:11 AM Reply With Quote
All ready been svad many moons ago
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DH2

posted on 1/9/11 at 08:17 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
All ready been svad many moons ago


Same applies to MOT though too, Al. Hydraulic handbrake should be a fail... though these things can sometimes depends on your tester.

Other things worth trying for bleeding: ensure the rear calipers are higher than the master cylinder, help get gravity on your side; leaving the pedal wedged down hard can help encourage air bubbles to migrate to the bleed nipple; disconnecting the fronts on the bias bar will help get more pedal travel into the rear master cylinder; use a vacuum bleeder to suck the fluid through.

DH2

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beaver34

posted on 1/9/11 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry have cable unit too, thanks for tips
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