Barksavon
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 08:16 PM |
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Recommend Brake Pads
I'm planning a few track days this year and want to improve the braking on my Tiger Avon. Ive only done one other track day and the brakes
started to fade off a bit after a few laps,Its fitted with cortina calipers and bog standard pads, i'm looking at EBC Green Stuff pads in the
ame calipers... am i looking in the right direction??
Thanks
Ian
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SJ
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 08:25 PM |
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I have Standard Sierra brakes with EBC Yellow stuff and they are great. Absolutely no issues with fade on track days, though I have vented discs so
that may come into play.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 08:41 PM |
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Mintex 1144, I have done plenty of track days on mine, no need to warm up, despite my best efforts they have never faded.
[Edited on 5/3/17 by mark chandler]
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 09:08 PM |
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Another for mintex 1144
Be Lucky Mike.
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matt5964
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 09:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SJ
I have Standard Sierra brakes with EBC Yellow stuff and they are great. Absolutely no issues with fade on track days, though I have vented discs so
that may come into play.
I have the same done loads of track days with no issues or fadeing
Very good for n the road as well
Luego velocity XT 2.0ltr 221.3bhp 178.9lbft
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x_flow57
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 09:56 PM |
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+1 for the 1144.
I have used them in a Locost on the road, on trackdays & racing.
I tried the EBC once, on track, & in comparison they were rubbish.
Nick
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phelpsa
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 10:02 PM |
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1144s for overall performance. Can be a bit noisy though if that's important to you.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 10:22 PM |
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I was about to say the same thing: I have Mintex 1144's on my road Locost, and they could really squeal sometimes. Good for shifting
pedestrians who are walking in the road, as they only squealed at low speeds - sounded like I'd just charged up behind them and stamped on the
brakes! 
I actually fitted them some time ago but went back to generic pads because I couldn't stand the noise. Eventually refitted them using the steel
shims that came with the generic pads, instead of the sticky rubber backing sheet originally supplied by Mintex - and the noise almost completely went
away.
They do stop well though, with little sign of fading (although I don't give them a hard time on the road). What I do like is the strong initial
bite, which is much better than I experienced with the generic pads (I had to stomp the pedal a bit to get the old pads working properly).
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Slimy38
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 10:32 PM |
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I've tried EBC compounds a few times, albeit on heavier cars. I never seemed to agree with them. I've cooked them a few times, glazed one
set, one set wore through in 5000 miles.
Mintex would get my vote, although admittedly that's only from reading hundreds of recommendations for them rather than trying them myself. I
don't currently own a car that's worthy of £100 worth of pads!!
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40inches
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 10:55 PM |
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Mintex 1144. Cheaper than EBC and much better. The EBC didn't perform any better than OEM Mintex
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loggyboy
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| posted on 5/3/17 at 11:23 PM |
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What bogo standard pads are you using?
Before spending big money on track/race orientated stuff, make sure you use quality branded discs and pads. Just oe mintex or brembo etc. Bed them in
well and you might fair better - if your using cheapo un branded stuff.
[Edited on 5-3-17 by loggyboy]
Mistral Motorsport
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x_flow57
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| posted on 6/3/17 at 06:56 AM |
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No, even Mintex std pads won't stand up to the abuse they'll get on a trackday.
Get the proper thing & don't waist your valuable track time waiting for your brakes to cool or even worse loosing them as you approach that
90° corner with no run off.
& just to add 1144s for Cortina calipers are £50-£60 a set, not a lot for piece of mind.
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
What bogo standard pads are you using?
Before spending big money on track/race orientated stuff, make sure you use quality branded discs and pads. Just oe mintex or brembo etc. Bed them in
well and you might fair better - if your using cheapo un branded stuff.
[Edited on 5-3-17 by loggyboy]
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loggyboy
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| posted on 6/3/17 at 08:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by x_flow57
No, even Mintex std pads won't stand up to the abuse they'll get on a trackday.
Get the proper thing & don't waist your valuable track time waiting for your brakes to cool or even worse loosing them as you approach that
90° corner with no run off.
& just to add 1144s for Cortina calipers are £50-£60 a set, not a lot for piece of mind.
I hear this a lot on the Clio forum and in my experience it just isnt the case.
Mistral Motorsport
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mcerd1
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| posted on 6/3/17 at 08:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I've tried EBC compounds a few times, albeit on heavier cars. I never seemed to agree with them. I've cooked them a few times, glazed one
set, one set wore through in 5000 miles.
I tried EBC greens on a 760kg pug 106 - they were totally cooked in about 6000 miles - despite only being a 45hp car 
I got a set lying in the garage for the dax that I might use at the SVA as the 'bed-in coating' did seem to work (they do bed in really
quick), but it'll probably get a set of mintex pads at the end of the day...
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aardvark101
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| posted on 5/4/17 at 06:02 PM |
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Im going to put in a vote for Ferrodo DS2500
I have used Mintex 1144 but as pointed out they squeel like a stuck pig until really hot which never happened
on the road, so chucked in the bin.
Never personally used EBC pads, but all the feed back ive heard is not great (good for motorcycles strangely tho )
I use the Ferrodo 's with Austin Princess 4 pots and have absolute confidence in them, they are also completely silent,
they aren't cheap when compared to the Mintex (120 Vs 50 quid ish) but hey, you cant skimp when it comes to stopping
cheers Paul
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40inches
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 08:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by aardvark101
Im going to put in a vote for Ferrodo DS2500
I have used Mintex 1144 but as pointed out they squeel like a stuck pig until really hot which never happened
on the road, so chucked in the bin.
Never personally used EBC pads, but all the feed back ive heard is not great (good for motorcycles strangely tho )
I use the Ferrodo 's with Austin Princess 4 pots and have absolute confidence in them, they are also completely silent,
they aren't cheap when compared to the Mintex (120 Vs 50 quid ish) but hey, you cant skimp when it comes to stopping
cheers Paul
Never had the squealing problem! However the pads came with anti squeal stuck on the back. A new addition following complaints?
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rodgling
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 10:49 AM |
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I've used 1144s on a 7, they were pretty good on track. Also tried 1155s but I think I couldn't get them hot enough, didn't like
them at all. Currently using Hawk DTC-30 which seemed maybe a little bit sharper in initial bite, so I'm going to stick with these over the
1144s for now.
I've also used DS2500 on a Boxster, which were good both on track and on the road.
IMO 1144s are a decent track pad which lots of people find good on a 7, so I would give that a try and see how you go.
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Barksavon
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 10:58 AM |
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My car is only going to be used for the odd track day, its sorn'd at present with no plans to put it back on the road in the foreseeable future,
i'm sure other people have cars they just use for track days, how do you go about bedding a set of pads in prior to hurling the car round a
track...?
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DJT
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 11:17 AM |
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I've EBC Green Stuff on my Avon. Generally they work well, including on track for maybe 5 or so hard laps. However, it is my solid front discs
that overheat before my pads give out. Are you running vented front discs?
http://tigeravonbuilddiary.blogspot.com/
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Barksavon
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 12:02 PM |
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solid front discs on my Avon
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Gre3D
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| posted on 6/4/17 at 09:55 PM |
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i've been running EBC yellowstuff on all my cars and i can't say i had any problems with them. i had ferodo ds2500 on my ford puma and
they fell appart when i swapped them out for a bigger brake kit, they were about 50% worn, had seen some street abuse and 1lap on the nurburgring. so
not that extreme.
i'm not going to try anything else from EBC then their yellowstuff. we had them on a friends bmw e30 325IX which is a pretty heavy car, and they
lasted a whole hour on zolder with no problem
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running a duratec ST engine'd locost for belgian slalom championship
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rodgling
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| posted on 7/4/17 at 07:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DJT
However, it is my solid front discs that overheat before my pads give out.
Seems unlikely, discs are just lumps of metal... they don't really overheat. Vented discs will stay cooler, which helps keep your pads cooler,
but it's not really the temperature of the discs themselves that matters.
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