craigdiver
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 04:12 PM |
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Brake pipe flaring too recommendations
Hi all, bought this from ebay - not having much success, came with tube cutter and pipe bender which are usefull.
My new copper brake pipe is 3/16" and the tool is designed for 5mm - pipe slipping through.
Would really like to do pipes myself, can anyone recommend a reliable flaring tool under (well under preferably) £100?
If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).
Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.
Volvo C30 T5 Polestar
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loggyboy
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 04:38 PM |
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They are always a pain IME
My dad has an old version similar to this which I found was most consistent (well the least inconsistent!)
https://www.drapertools.com/product/23313/Expert-4-75mm-Din-Hand-Held-Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool
https://www.drapertools.com/product/23312/Expert-3-16inch-SAE-Hand-Held-Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool
[Edited on 7-8-17 by loggyboy]
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RedAvon
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 04:53 PM |
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Hi,
I ended up buying one of these from eBay for around £50-60. After a couple of practice flares it did a cracking job of a full set of Kunifer pipes for
my series Landy. Will also be used on the kit. I have the handheld one above which is pretty good but I would only use it in tight spaces if I
couldn't use the the bench and vice, they need to be pretty tight for Kunifer in my experience.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Ian
Sykes Pickavant Brake Flaring Tool
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NigeEss
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 04:58 PM |
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Sykes Pikavant Flaremaster 2. Hydraulic operation, can even do steel pipes in situ.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 05:07 PM |
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As above, comes as a full kit or just the tool. Not cheap but you won't need to buy another.
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craigdiver
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 05:15 PM |
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Can get the Sykes Pikavant Flaremaster 2 (tool only) from ebay for £86 (ebay item 272512157498).
Is this all I need to produce male & female flares on 3/16" copper brake pipe? I aready have rotary pipe cutter.
If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).
Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.
Volvo C30 T5 Polestar
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obfripper
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 05:59 PM |
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That'll do what you want, you'll want to do a few test flares to get a feel for the tool and the material you're flaring.
From experience, only use a stubby spanner to tighten the clamp part(there will be a small gap between the dies when sufficiently tight), and ensure
the hydraulic ram is screwed into the bridge fully to ensure correct operation.
I don't think you'll get a better price, my first one was 150 in about 1999, and was 100 a couple years ago when i replaced with the full
die set version 4.75&6mm.
Dave
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craigdiver
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 06:36 PM |
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Thanks all, bought the Sykes Pikavant Flaremaster 2 - locost my 4rse, think that has almost broke my £250 budget for the car :-)
If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).
Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.
Volvo C30 T5 Polestar
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myke pocock
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| posted on 7/8/17 at 07:40 PM |
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Well I use the one shown and have had good results from it. Mind you I don't use a pipe cutter, I use a fine hacksaw and cut the tube upside
down so the dust doesn't get in the pipe. Then gently file the inside of the pipe, upside down again, with a needle file to remove the rough
edge.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 07:17 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
....Mind you I don't use a pipe cutter, I use a fine hacksaw and cut the tube upside down so the dust doesn't get in the pipe. Then gently
file the inside of the pipe, upside down again, with a needle file to remove the rough edge.
a mini pipe cutter is so much easier than that and costs less than £5 
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mini+pipe+cutter&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBuK2picfVAhVB2RQKHa7cDgsQsxgIKQ&
;biw=908&bih=571
I still use my dad's ancient sykes-pickavant - like this one:
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/I4EAAOSwOVpXbVqA/$_86.JPG
good ones with all the bits come up every now and then for £50 or less and the do very reliable single and double flares
(in a loads of different pipe sizes too if you get one with all the bits)
[Edited on 8/8/2017 by mcerd1]
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davidimurray
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 07:22 AM |
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I struggled with the one you show until I was given a little tip. Put some brake fluid over the die, cone and the end of the pipe just before you form
the flare - made a massive difference and did my whole car with one of those.
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craigdiver
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 07:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by davidimurray
I struggled with the one you show until I was given a little tip. Put some brake fluid over the die, cone and the end of the pipe just before you form
the flare - made a massive difference and did my whole car with one of those.
As the pipe is 3/16" (~4.7mm) and the tool is designed for 5mm pipe, when I lubed it up with brake fluid it slipped in the tool even more. If I
had bought tge correct imperial version of the tool I may have had more success.
If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).
Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.
Volvo C30 T5 Polestar
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chris
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 09:08 AM |
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i have also used the one in the first post and yes the pipe does slip through thats prevented by using some pipe grips to really tighten the butterfly
nuts up then it works fine have completed many flares with it
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SteveWallace
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 11:04 AM |
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I also struggled with the type of kit shown in the OP. The I bought one of these and every flare has been perfect since, so I can thoroughly
recommend it. The only issue is that each kit is one size only (but they come in different sizes), so it could work out quite expensive if you need
to do more than one size.
Hand Held Brake Pipe Flaring Tool For 1/4" SAE Brake/FuelPipes PH-BFT-
"I know every nut and bolt and cog in that car, I built it myself" - The Prisoner, 1967
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nick205
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| posted on 8/8/17 at 04:25 PM |
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I used set as per the OPs picture on my MK Indy. It was my Dad's set and worked just fine for me.
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