DorsetStrider
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 05:55 PM |
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Wheels
Ok this is possibly a very stupid question but hey we all have to learn right?
Does anyone know if there would be any issues (legal or otherwise) to use two different wheel set ups? I have an old alfa 33 that I have taken the
engine, gear box and front wheel set up from, I plan to drop these in a mid engined locost inspired design.... but would it be ok to use a C reg
renault 5 front wheels steering etc for the front of the car?
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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JoelP
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 05:56 PM |
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maybe a bit of a bugger when you get a flat (two spares?!) but a can of the tyre fix would solve that.
Probably wouldnt affect the legal stuff, im fairly sure you could still get an age related plate.
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 09:03 PM |
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you can get twin fit alloys which would mean 1 set would cover all 4 wheel that is if you can get them to suit, (i was in a similar situation to
you)
[Edited on 15/1/05 by liam.mccaffrey]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 09:41 PM |
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IIRC as long as the wheels are of the same diameter all should be fine. However, I've seen a few manufacturers of late with different diameters
so I'm not sure now
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 09:47 PM |
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Dutton Phaeton 2 had triumph at the front and ford at the rear, you can use different sizes on your car as long as the larger wheels are at the rear
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 09:49 PM |
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cool thanks guys, I just wanted to know that I wasn't going to run into problems with SVA or anything.
All I need now are a pair of bottom swivel joints/maxi ball joints...... don't suppose any of you have an recommendations on this score?
[Edited on 15/1/05 by DorsetStrider]
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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gazza285
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 10:30 PM |
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That ugly little Smart car has different size wheels front and rear.
Getting the 33 engine through the emissions will be you biggest problem as they are a pain in the arse to set up, half the time the inlet manifolds
are porous.
Joel P, don't you know spares just add extra weight?
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Liam
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 11:11 PM |
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You might be OK with a set of 4 wheels the same actually. Alfa is an unusual 98mm PCD and I think the renault 5 would be 100mm PCD (i stand to be
corrected). Anyway - you can get things called wobble bolts that have a floating taper on them. They are designed to let common 100pcd wheels fit
on 98pcd hubs and vice versa. You of course need the correct spiggot rings for your wheels so they locate properly on the hubs.
So with 8 wobble bolts you'd be able to fit a set of 100pcd alloys to your car, even with alfa running gear at the rear and renault 5 up
front.
Hope that helps
Liam
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 11:26 PM |
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Try ditching the french element and get the front end from a Fiat 132/argenta/lada, or fabricate upper wishbones and fit to uno/punto front uprights.
Everything italian 4 stud is 98mm PCD
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Liam
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 11:40 PM |
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Sacré bleu!!! When monsieurs Peugeot, Renault and friends make such beautiful automobile parts!
Thinking about it - and having spent the last few horrible days assisting in an alfa 164 clutch change followed almost immediately by ac pump failure
and hence neccessary change - i'd say use as few italian parts as possible! 
Liam
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 16/1/05 at 12:55 AM |
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Bit late for that. My build is built for the alfa engine etc. If I change that at this point I think I'll have to do some major redesign work.
Just wanted to know if I'd be taking any chances useing the two different wheel set ups or wheather I'd have to hunt around for front alfa
hubs that would suit. I think the renault hubs will be fine and it seems a shame to turn it away since I've been offered the car for free.....
the previous lady owner somehow managed to blow up the engine (don't ask....just don't ask)
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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Mix
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| posted on 16/1/05 at 09:41 AM |
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My present car runs different diameter wheels front and rear. 
Mick
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smart51
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 08:47 PM |
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Brabus smarts have 17" wheels on the rear and 16" on the front. They have different offsets as well so you can't put rear the
wheels on the front.
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gazza285
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 09:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DorsetStrider
Bit late for that. My build is built for the alfa engine etc. If I change that at this point I think I'll have to do some major redesign work.
Just wanted to know if I'd be taking any chances useing the two different wheel set ups or wheather I'd have to hunt around for front alfa
hubs that would suit. I think the renault hubs will be fine and it seems a shame to turn it away since I've been offered the car for free.....
the previous lady owner somehow managed to blow up the engine (don't ask....just don't ask)
Most (if not all) rear wheel drive Alfa's have double wishbone suspension at the front, usually with torsion bars admittedly, and with the rack
behind the wheels not in front, shouldn't be a problem if its a middy though.
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 02:02 AM |
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mine isn't...correction make that wasn't.... a rear wheel drive alfa. it used to be front wheel drive. I've just taken out the
engine gearbox and front wheels/axels and going to dump them into the rear of my chassis.
I'd love to make it sound more technical than that but hey it's 2am and I really can't be arsed! lol
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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gazza285
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 04:25 AM |
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I know. Just buy a shed off eBay and sell it off in bits. I bought an '82 Guilietta for £106, sold the carbs for £120 and the wheels for £80 and
the rest went drip feed. Made about £400 and got my uprights, rack, steering column and the basis for a rear end in one go. Scrap prices being what
they are the local scrap man took the shell away for free, with glass, interior and more holes than a pair of punk tights.
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Simon
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 08:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
That ugly little Smart car has different size wheels front and rear.
Getting the 33 engine through the emissions will be you biggest problem as they are a pain in the arse to set up, half the time the inlet manifolds
are porous.
Joel P, don't you know spares just add extra weight?
As is the case with german things, they have a reason for the differing wheel sizes!
It's cos the car fell over during moose test. Strangley enough the bloke who designed it, designed the A Class, and that felll over too.
The Audi TT also fell over so was recalled to have those stupid little spoilers and rear suspension mods fitted
ATB
Simon
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 09:28 PM |
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The Audi TT also fell over so was recalled to have those stupid little spoilers and rear suspension mods fitted
Not quite, the original TT was a great handling sports car which happened to do the totally unacceptable thing called understeer. They were recalled
and neutered so the hairdressers would not soil their silkies
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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