britishtrident
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:33 PM |
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Wost engines
Here is my list of the worst engines I have encountered in 40+ years of being around cars.
(1) Stag V8 ---- head gaskets x2
(2) Vauxhall Victor & Bedford CF slant 4 SOHC -- rough as old boots
(3) Ford Kent 1200 pre-xflo --- big ends
(4) early Ford essex V4 & V6 -- big ends, head gaskets , timing wheels
(5) Chrysler 180 SOHC - camshafts
(6) Ford Pinto - camshafts
(7) Peugeot 204 camshafts
(8) All Pre BMC Morris engines except the Xpag
(9) BMC A series 1275 -- head gaskets & piston ring problems compared to smaller versions.
(10) Honda Legend 2.5 V6 as sold to Rover
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(11) the Viva OHV engine just because it was horrible to look at.
[Edited on 22/3/06 by britishtrident]
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stevec
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:38 PM |
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What about:
Hillman Imp
BMC 1300 again, Idler gears.
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stevec
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:39 PM |
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What about that horrible Diesel they put in the SD1 Rovers.
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jimmyjoebob
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:42 PM |
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Rover k series - headgasket problems
rolls royce 4 litre - crap power and leaks oil from everywhere
If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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UncleFista
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Here is my list of the worst engines I have encountered in 40+ years of being around cars.
(1) Stag V8 ---- head gaskets x2
(2) Vauxhall Victor & Bedford CF slant 4 SOHC -- rough as old boots
(3) Ford Kent 1200 pre-xflo --- big ends
(4) early Ford essex V4 & V6 -- big ends, head gaskets , timing wheels
(5) Chrysler 180 SOHC - camshafts
(6) Ford Pinto - camshafts
(7) Peugeot 204 camshafts
(8) All Pre BMC Morris engines except the Xpag
(9) BMC A series 1275 -- head gaskets & piston ring problems compared to smaller versions.
(10) Honda Legend 2.5 V6 as sold to Rover
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(11) the Viva OHV engine just because it was horrible to look at.
[Edited on 22/3/06 by britishtrident]
I can't believe the CVH didn't get a dis-honourable mention. It's appetite for cam/rocker gear was unforgivable, and that noise ! 
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 05:48 PM |
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th k series is a great engine, let down by a cooling system problem and plastic dowels-easily solved apparantly
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Liam
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 06:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
(10) Honda Legend 2.5 V6 as sold to Rover
Ooooooh better watch your tongue there!! Nah actually the 2.5 was supposed to be a pile of crap. The 2.7 on the other hand - marvellous piece of
engineering, if not the best engine ever designed.
What about the Vauxhall 3.0 (or 2.5) Ecotec V6 as found in my Omega pimp wagon. A lovely engine when it's working, and mine is, but the
component layout is an absolute design catastrophe!! Oil to water heat exchanger that fails right in the valley of the vee - big strip down and
sludge cleanup; change the plugs - good few hours; leads - much worse!; coil pack and oft-leaking heater bypass valve mounted behind the engine
burried in the bulkhead - near impossible to access!!; oft failing crank position sensor also behind engine with wiring routed by exhaust!; changing
cruddy oft-leaking plastic rocker covers - good solid day due to access; thermostat change - complete intake system removal!; n/s exhaust manifold -
ENGINE OUT!!! Oh yes, although apparently it's possible by 'only' removing the head! Love the car though!!
Liam
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NS Dev
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 06:14 PM |
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lada 1600??
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 06:25 PM |
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toyota 7MGTE.
same rep as K series for blowing HG's
-Rog
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 06:29 PM |
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Had 5 Rover K powered cars without a head gasket problem ever.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 06:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjoebob
Rover k series - headgasket problems
rolls royce 4 litre - crap power and leaks oil from everywhere
If you mean the Rolls B60 and B61 -and its near relative the Silver Wraith/Silver Cloud engine never see oil leak from one yet. same goes for the
B40, B80 and B81
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gary gsx
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 07:46 PM |
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How about any renault
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 07:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gary gsx
How about any renault
My pet hates were the Solex carbs and also electrical a systems on Renaults but never had much problem with the engines --- however the latest
Laguna diesels are apparently eating turbos at 60,000 miles.
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minordelay
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 08:00 PM |
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The old slanted engine in the 205's, was used in sambas too it leaked oil like anything and rattly idler gears to top it off.
also the 305 engines with the alternator belt going round 90° to drive the rad fan at the front.
Happy days!!!!
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gary gsx
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 08:01 PM |
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Renault 5 turbo head gasket poo
Or the latest Daf 85 cf, fast idle or first thing in the morning sounds like its going too throw a rod 
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robertst
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by gary gsx
How about any renault
My pet hates were the Solex carbs and also electrical a systems on Renaults but never had much problem with the engines --- however the latest
Laguna diesels are apparently eating turbos at 60,000 miles.
how about peugeots rather than renault? i have not heard any peugeot engine that runs smoothly or seen one that doesn't consume oil in equal
proportions to gas!. diesels are as noisy as banging a frying pan with a mallet and gasolines are either wheezy or sound just like a diesel anyway.
cooling systems in peugeot are shite, and i will not even mention its gearboxes!
up to now i have not seen an engine as gracious and forgiving as the pinto. maybe 'cos the camshafts are still ok. but with over 170k miles and
no major servicing (apart from the head gasket i did the other day) and running with virtually no coolant for the last two years, just flushing the
cooling system, filling it up and changing the oil. it now purrs like a TIGER! (dont care if tigers really purr, just a figure of speech ). apart
from that. how cool is it to have the safety that if a cambelt in a pinto breaks, the valves and head will not go through the bonnet??!!
my nissan micra is giving me more problems than the sierra is with only a quarter of the mileage of the sierra!
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JoelP
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 08:38 PM |
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got to defend the 3 litre peugeot engine, ive had a few that didnt run as well as others, but when you get a good one, its a minter. Say what you
like about the rest!
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zetec
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 09:24 PM |
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Alfa Twin Spark....Why 8 plugs in a 4 pot! £100+ to change the plugs. Also has a crap VVC system that needs new parts every Cambelt change at 36K
miles...£500 for a belt change alone. My old Ford Focus Diesel and Volvo have 100K mile belts and both cheap to replace.
I'm told it all went to pot for Alfa when Fiat took over...
Got to second the Lada lump...Huge ability to eat cam chain tensioners!
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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raccoonradar
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 10:20 PM |
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Quote "how about peugeots rather than renault? i have not heard any peugeot engine that runs smoothly or seen one that doesn't consume oil
in equal proportions to gas!. diesels are as noisy"
Peugeot have there hands in with many other manufactors making a lot of very good diesels these days
But I Suppose most diesel are a lot better than the good old days
[Edited on 22/3/06 by raccoonradar]
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jimmyjoebob
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 10:22 PM |
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I mean the 4 litre rolls engine as fitted to the Vanden Plas 4 litre R.
If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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davidwag
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 10:57 PM |
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Hi,
I've got to add Peugeot/shitroen HDI diesel engine.
And VW/Audi 1.8 20 Valve turbo
Both hopeless reliability but good for my profit margins
David
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eddymcclements
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 11:58 PM |
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Nasty 1360 Citroen engine with gearbox in sump
Talbot Horizon with death rattle from cam even with low mileage
Ford V6 with strangled ports
Slant-4 Triumph head gasket
Porsche 944S 16 valve - silly cambelt driving one cam, then shitty separate chain + tensioner driving other cam. Tensioner and chain wears out,
sprockets are integral with cams, either the chain breaks - valves hit pistons and car is scrapped because repairs are so hideously expensive or you
catch it in time and have to replace both cams. Silly oil/water heat exchanger with leaky seals = mayonnaise in coolant and oil system. Rip-off from
Mitsubishi balance shaft system meaning even more belts to replace at a service. Avoid, avoid, AVOID!
Eddy
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Browser
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 12:22 AM |
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Skoda 1000/1200/1300cc slant four as fitted to the Estelles and Favorits. Upside down for a start (cast iron head on an alloy block?) with poor
quality materials. AS descibed by my uncle who skimmed the head on my first one, the head was made from 'the worst cast iron I've ever had
to machine' Also overheated with monotonous regularity and in doing so expanded the copper liner sealing washers. Result: Blown head gasket
and engine strip to replace said washers I'd a plan to fit a 2.0l Alfa twink which never happened 'cos I got married instead. Were I
doing it now I'd get a 1400 K series, nice and light and more power than the standard lump. That or a 20v Toyota
Bloody good fun in the wet though, especially the pre-1987 swing axle rear suspension models. Just show 'em a wet roundabout and oversteer was
yours for the asking
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 09:49 AM |
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Had an early 205 Diesel. Did 25K a year in it. Superbly reliable, never missed a beat in the 6 years I had it. At the time, Peugot diesels where
reputed to be the best.
[Edited on 23/3/06 by Ian Pearson]
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timf
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 11:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
(1) Stag V8 ---- head gaskets x2
(2) Vauxhall Victor & Bedford CF slant 4 SOHC -- rough as old boots
(3) Ford Kent 1200 pre-xflo -
[Edited on 22/3/06 by britishtrident]
stag v8 why on earth did they develop it when they had the rv8 in the family at the time.
Vauxhall Victor & Bedford CF slant 4
how dare you the basis for the lotus 907 engine
ford pre crossflow again how dare you  the basis for the claisic ford based lotus (based on the 1500 cc one)
what about the rover straight engines as fitted to the sd1's with the small problem of head lubrication
[Edited on 23/3/06 by timf]
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