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Author: Subject: Top Wishbone Rod Ends... any info?
James

posted on 6/7/06 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
Top Wishbone Rod Ends... any info?

Just a bit of pondering ideas really....

To get the self-centring I need for SVA (without cheating with valve springs and the like) I need to move the wishbone back in the bracket to increase the castor.

I don't want to cut the bush/wishbone tube down any further, I'd rather just have a narrower bush (ie. a rod end).

Decided best way is to cut off the bushes I have and weld on threaded tubes for rod ends.

Without anyone starting any arguments about teflon or brass or unobtainium liners or anything is there any info I should have before going down this route?

I'll be after 12mm rod ends to match the brackets I've already got.

Best place to get them, longest lasting type etc? Do they need covers to survive road mileage? Are they at all suitable for lots of miles or are they a use once, throw away type thing?

Thanks,
James

[Edited on 6/7/06 by James]





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JoelP

posted on 6/7/06 at 04:16 PM Reply With Quote
speak to nick skidmore, he knows plenty to help and advise. And supply too! Ive just ordered about 25 roses off him, and he makes inserts to match.
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Syd Bridge

posted on 6/7/06 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
G'day James,

With all the fafffin about you're doing, wouldn't the best answer be to bite the bullet and make a new set of top wishbones, with more setback for the outer joint.

Then, the job will be right, for ever more.

Cheers,
Syd.

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ned

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:09 PM Reply With Quote
not to dig james a hole but he just paid someone to make him some wishbones and they still don't have enough castor in them (and it wasn't me before you ask )





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t.j.

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
If you can space the upper to the rear, maybe you could space also the lower to the front.

I'm using the bushes of the peugeot 205.
So aiming for 5.5 degr and the extra spacing possiblity it must be enough castor.


brackets and bushes
brackets and bushes

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DIY Si

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
Whilst that is a good idea, I'd be warey (?) of using bushes with a steel outer. If they ever get wet, they rust into the bones for ever. Just ask anyone who owns a landy.
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t.j.

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Whilst that is a good idea, I'd be warey (?) of using bushes with a steel outer. If they ever get wet, they rust into the bones for ever. Just ask anyone who owns a landy.


Hmmm,

I don't think so cause it's normal in the automobile industry to use bushes with outer sleeves.

If it will rust i could make some new wisbones

I will paint them, so they will preserved for the next 3 generations.

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DIY Si

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know wether they're widely used, but the paint can/will chip due to them being slightly exposed. I'm not saying don't use them, just be aware you may not ever get them back out from the bones should you need to. May be worrying over nothing, as you may not ever want to remove them....
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t.j.

posted on 6/7/06 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
I'm using them cause they slighty could absorb some shocks.

I hope the bushes have never to be replaced. I also hope that the car never feels any drops of rain

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ned

posted on 6/7/06 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
just for info i replaced some 205 front bushes on a 150k mile gti, had to cut the steel outer sleeve from the (cast) wishbone after i burnt the rubber & inner sleeve out with the blow torch...

Ned.





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procomp

posted on 7/7/06 at 07:10 AM Reply With Quote
Hi westfield and sylva have been using this type of bush for over 20 years with no problem except when changing them it needs to be done in a press. Westfields later ones are slightly softer shore rating than thier earlier ones and work a dream.

cheers matt

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James

posted on 7/7/06 at 02:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
G'day James,

With all the fafffin about you're doing, wouldn't the best answer be to bite the bullet and make a new set of top wishbones, with more setback for the outer joint.

Then, the job will be right, for ever more.

Cheers,
Syd.


Sigh, to be honest you're right Syd. I just haven't the energy right now to choose to do that!

Maybe when I get back from holiday!

Cheers,
James





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Confused but excited.

posted on 7/7/06 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
Ah, no problem there then after all.





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