Delinquent
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 08:47 PM |
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Hi, looking for Ally hub carriers
Hi all, I'm working on a scratch design project, and need to source some ally uprights / hub carriers. So far in my quest I've been given
a few pointers and leads but have had problems with all of them in terms of communication!! (as in, no one bothers getting back to me, impossible to
get through to...)
My project is a large mid-engined job with a target weight of around 1000-1200 kg, double wishbone all round with inboard dampers etc. in the brief
discussion I have managed to get with someone I have been told the average locost/7 type are not really up to the weight/power setup so need something
a little beefier. I need both front and rear though could adapt fronts for the rear if needed. Any suggestions gratefully received.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:00 PM |
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These will probably do the trick
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=48551
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:03 PM |
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The standard locost stuff comes form a car weighing roughly what yours will, so I don't see why they won't be up to it. The old
tina/granada ones ran the essex and coulougne (?) v6's so should be ok for things with big heavy engines and the like.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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Delinquent
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:08 PM |
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thanks for the link, will look into that!
As to the originals, the plan is for some seriously high performance which I've been told if the car is light as per the locost style is not a
problem, but when you combine the heavier load with the high performance, you could run into trouble.
If I'm totally honest I really dont know enough about the design of hub carriers to know if this is true or not, so the only thing I had to go
on was this "experts" opinion and by looking at other larger similar cars (GT40, lambo reps etc) and they do all seem to have much beefier
carriers on them - Its an area I really need to polish my knowlege of but I'd rather over-engineer this area than cut it fine.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:12 PM |
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Fair enough. Although I've recently sold a set of granada uprights to a bloke for a lambo replica! One thing worth keeping in mind is that most
of the replica 40's lambo's etc are kit with very specific wishbones designed as a unit with there own upright. Also probably a very
simple way of making more money! If the chassis is based around a certain set up, it'll be unique so you have to buy something that fits. Which
will be expensive.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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Delinquent
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Fair enough. Although I've recently sold a set of granada uprights to a bloke for a lambo replica! One thing worth keeping in mind is that most
of the replica 40's lambo's etc are kit with very specific wishbones designed as a unit with there own upright. Also probably a very
simple way of making more money! If the chassis is based around a certain set up, it'll be unique so you have to buy something that fits. Which
will be expensive.
Hmmm that's interesting! I'll do some more digging on that as well. The design I'm working on is fairly "loose" at the
moment, particularly with regards to wishbone design and layout. My reason for looking for an available set of uprights rather than machining my own
was largely because I want to tie one area down and work from there - odd way of doing it I know, but I'm odd like that 
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DIY Si
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:31 PM |
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It might also just be me being cynical! But I doubt it.
As per sorting the wishbones etc out first it's not that silly. That way you get/make a single set of suspension parts and make the chassis to
fit. Saves making the chassis and having to change everything because the only uprights you can find need different bones and mounts. Besides,
you've got to start somewhere!
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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Chippy
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:50 PM |
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The Granada, fitted with the 2.9i, weighs in at over a ton, and is capable of 147mph. I dont think you would go far wrong using the bits from one of
those, (even after Fords accountants had paired them down).  Regards Ray.
Just looked at the book, weight = 1390 kg, or approx 3060 lb's, or 1.4 tons. Whew!!
[Edited on 8-8-06 by Chippy]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 09:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
The Granada, fitted with the 2.9i, weighs in at over a ton
Well over a ton I would think!
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Delinquent
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 10:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
The Granada, fitted with the 2.9i, weighs in at over a ton, and is capable of 147mph. I dont think you would go far wrong using the bits from one of
those, (even after Fords accountants had paired them down). Regards Ray.
it's always the simple statements that put things in perspective, isn't it!!!
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adampage
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| posted on 8/8/06 at 10:25 PM |
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New ally uprights on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Racing-car-suspension-upright-Hillclimb-Sprint-Kit-car_W0QQitemZ140015163752QQihZ004QQcategoryZ9886QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ
ViewItem
(or search for item 140015163752 if that link's too long)
They look suitable for mid engine, and similar to the ones from nfauto which you could also look at -
http://www.nfauto.co.uk/alloy_uprights.htm
Just a thought, if the Granada ones don't work out...
Adam.
[Edited on 8/8/06 by adampage]
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/8/06 at 07:40 AM |
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those ones on ebay need a lot of machining to be useable, theres no holes drilled and the contact surfaces need finishing etc.
Granada hubs are undoubtedly strong enough, question is, are ally replacement hubs strong enough too? I would ring bruce at raceleda for a chat, he
knows his beans. Then, if you want the parts, order them from MNR, cos they're cheaper.
http://www.raceleda.co.uk/
http://www.mnrltd.co.uk/
[Edited on 9/8/06 by JoelP]
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Delinquent
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| posted on 9/8/06 at 09:21 AM |
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Raceleda were one of the first companies I tried - after an initally very helpful conversation (the gent told me his were not suitable for my app but
he could make slightly different ones up to the job) a few months later I tried to get in touch to firm up ideas - a dozen attempts at communication
with them I gave up. I've been told since that the original chap passed away and the people that took over really are not that in the know, or
particularly enthusiastic so to speak.
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