andyd
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 07:58 AM |
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Which rod ends?
I'm going to buy a Escort MK2 quick rack from Rally Design within the next couple of days and wondered if anyone could point me toward the ideal
spherical rod ends to use instead of the more normal ball joint ones.
If I can I'd like to get them from Rally Design at the same time so a link would be most helpful.
Just had a quick look and found these. Are they what
I need?
Just had a closer look and the rod ends are male not female. 
[Edited on 28/12/2006 by andyd]
Andy
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t.j.
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 09:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andyd
I'm going to buy a Escort MK2 quick rack from Rally Design within the next couple of days and wondered if anyone could point me toward the ideal
spherical rod ends to use instead of the more normal ball joint ones.
If I can I'd like to get them from Rally Design at the same time so a link would be most helpful.
Just had a quick look and found these. Are they what
I need?
Just had a closer look and the rod ends are male not female.
[Edited on 28/12/2006 by andyd]
I would not buy them as they look steel/steel to me.
I would buy steel/ptfe or if these are to expensive steel/brons.
There are male and female. You need as far as i know M14.
Grtz
Look at www.skf.com for plain bearings
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 09:50 AM |
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i spoke to someone awhile ago about this. He said that m14 rod ends are rather heavy, hence why he used smaller ones and lathed adapters to change the
thread of the steering arms, and the bore of the upright. M14x2 female rodends seemed a lot easier though so this is what i used. I got them off nick
skidmore.
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Nick Skidmore
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 10:08 AM |
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Nice PTFE lined steel are about £20 and I may be able to do bronze for as low as £4.
Contact me if interested.
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NOTE:This user is registered as a LocostBuilders trader and may offer commercial services to other users
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 11:07 AM |
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So if I use the spherical bearings from Nick then I wouldn't have to have rack extensions? (Sorry to jack the thread) ..Confused
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 11:12 AM |
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Don't RS do a kit to replace normal track rod ends?
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andyd
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 11:50 AM |
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Doesn't seem like Rally Design do female ends. Not that I can find anyway.
Joel - Thanks for the dims and pointer to Nick.
Nick - I'll U2U you soon as £20 sounds good to me.
Mr.Grumpy - Not a clue but I'm sure Nick can answer that. I guess it depends if you want the steering rack to be longer than standard.
I'm designing my whole front end around a standard length rack so I won't need anything extended.
Rusty - Female rod ends screw onto the rack exactly the same way that normal track rod ends do so I'm not sure why a kit would be required. Not
that I've looked at what RS do but I can't see that there'd be any point. 
Cheers all for the info anyway. 
Andy
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goodall
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 12:09 PM |
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click
what about those on ebay are they any good for the money?
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andyd
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by goodall
click
what about those on ebay are they any good for the money?
'fraid not, they are male not female.
Andy
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 12:36 PM |
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Have a look at Raceleda steering conversion kits . May give you some ideas . Listed in RS catalogue, bit expensive though
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 03:35 PM |
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i believe you still need an extension with rosejoints on the rack, obviously this depends on the size of it. Some would argue that since you need an
extension anyway, you may as well have a smaller thread on the end of it, to save a little weight. Remember it is unsprung mass.
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andyd
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 07:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i believe you still need an extension with rosejoints on the rack, obviously this depends on the size of it. Some would argue that since you need an
extension anyway, you may as well have a smaller thread on the end of it, to save a little weight. Remember it is unsprung mass.
I'm designing my whole front end around the length of the rack obviously including the ends therefore I don't intend to extend anything
unless you're saying that the "standard" length isn't good enough for a good handling car? I'm designing my own
uprights including the steering arms too so within reason I'll be able to adjust the overall track a certain amount.
Andy
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 08:05 PM |
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should be ok then, the roses i got were a bit shorter than the ball joints, maybe 10 or 20mm. Are you shortening your rack centre to avoid bump steer?
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andyd
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| posted on 28/12/06 at 08:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
should be ok then, the roses i got were a bit shorter than the ball joints, maybe 10 or 20mm. Are you shortening your rack centre to avoid bump steer?
Ah right 10-20mm shouldn't be an issue as I'll wait until I can measure the rack with ends as one unit then go from there.
I won't need to shorten the rack as I'll be designing the entire chassis and wishbone setup based on the standard rack length.
Andy
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