ned
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 10:17 AM |
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T5 gearbox bellhousings....
I've just been pondering the gearbox options again for my vauxhall 2ltr.
Currently my best option seems to be a type 9, but it'll need a heavy duty quaife kit 190-275bhp (£900) to cope with the power.
I wondered whether the bellhousings for the vauxhall to type 9 would fit onto a T5? (T5 seem to go for £300ish, so would save a bit if it fits and
should cope with the power easily)
The T5 bellhousing will be the same as the pinto at the engine end because the yb block originated from the late pinto block.
My question is will the bolt pattern at the gearbox end be the same or fit?
Anyone any experience or info on this combination (t5 gearbox with type 9 vauxhall bellhousing)
thanks,
Ned.
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timf
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 10:53 AM |
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in a word no
the gear box mountings are completely different
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ned
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 10:56 AM |
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damn it!
thanks timf,
Ned.
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timf
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 11:32 AM |
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although they are different the t5 bellhousing is longer so you might be able to have an adapter plate made between vx bell anf box, but the clutch
disk dia on cossie is bugger then pinto and the hub centre / spline count is also different
but it's not impossible
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ned
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 11:53 AM |
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wouldn't happen to know the spline size/count woud you by any chance?
i know a type 9 is 1" x23.
at least i could then investigate if i could get a clutch plate to fit!
if the t5 bellhousing is that much longer than i can't think it'd be that difficult to make (or get made up) an adapter to sit at the
gearbox end, just need to measure it accurately so the shaft is in the right place!
There just so happens to be a t5 going on another forum, they're asking £400 for it....
Ned.
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ned
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 12:35 PM |
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thinking about it some more, it'd get tricky, because you'd need to sort out the clutch fork and release bearing as well. thats after
you've sorted the clutch plates to fit and bought an billet to make the adapter from, and measured and had it machined...
Perhaps the best plan will be to try and find a good type9 clubman box in the classifieds....
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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timf
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| posted on 11/7/03 at 12:49 PM |
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also £400 is a bit steep
look in motoring news normally £200 - 250 for T5.
have you tried tran-x for a price on gear kits
just as good as quafe but less expensive
see http://www.tran-x.com/index2.html for details
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Viper
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| posted on 12/7/03 at 08:43 AM |
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The spline count on a T5 is 23 with an O/D of 1"
Ned
is your pinto/vx bellhousing alloy? tthey can be modded to fit a T5 (i done it with an RS2000 before i got a cossie one for £10 off e bay)
of course there are companys out there that will do you a bellhousing for this fitment.
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ned
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| posted on 15/7/03 at 11:06 AM |
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After further research and a few more phone calls I have found that an adapter exists for the t5 to a rover v8 box, this uses a rover auto box
bellhousing which is a shorter bellhousing then uses an adapter plate by magnum engineering to fit the bellhousing to the gearbox at the gearbox
end.
The t5 box uses the same 1" x23 splines that the type 9 and other ford boxes do, so clutch plates and release bearing etc aren't a
problem. I'll have to buy an adapter bellhousing for a type 9 box from SBD / QED / Yukspeed then make up an adapter for the gearbox end of the
bellhousing.
Bringing me on to my next question....
Before I spend out on a t5 can someone measure/does anybody know the length of the t5 bellhousing? I'd like to know so I can find out how much
of an adapter plate I'd need to make up (I know the size of the vx->type9 b/housing courtesy of sbd's catalogue!)
Timf, you said the bellhousing is longer - how long please!!
Thanks all,
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Bob C
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| posted on 15/7/03 at 12:02 PM |
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T5 bellhousing
T5 box is now made by tremec. The bolts on the gearbox end are all the same. Most you find in UK have come from a sierra cossie - ID by no. on s/s
tag, the data can be found on the web. To mate to rover v8 best bet is to get a TVR bellhousing & clutch gubbins. I did the magnum engineering
thing for my mx5 but they don't have the best reputation for quality. But you want to mate to a vauxhall so I can't help much,
you'll have to suck it and see. If you want any measurements off a cossie T5 I have a spare and can give you any dims you want - best email me
direct (possibly you already have on my home email....?). The T5 is a real brick outhouse of a box & feels good enough with a short gearstick.
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Viper
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| posted on 15/7/03 at 07:05 PM |
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Ned.
Cossie bellhousing (for T5) is 180mm from mating surface to mating surface.
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ned
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| posted on 16/7/03 at 08:22 AM |
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thanks viper.
that means with a standard (non v6) vauxhall -> type9 bellhousing @ 150mm I'll have 30mm to play with....
the search continues.
thanks all,
Ned.
ps just been offered one in scarborough for £375, bit far + pricey me thinks!
[Edited on 16/7/03 by ned]
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