ned
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:06 PM |
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new boiler quote
Just wondered what people's thoughts are on this...
I've had a couple of quotes for getting my old conventional boiler replaced with a combi boiler and relocated to my utility room (about
10' away through one wall to the current location).
One quote was on a worcester bosch 28kw and the other on an Ideal Isar HE 35kw.
The quotes include 5x thermostatic rad valves and wireless stat and all properly corgi registered and relevant building regs accordingly sorted.
Anyone had this done recently and if so would you mind sharing the rough cost or likewise any plumbers/heating engineers care to give me what
they'd imagine a rough/guide price bracket should be for this work?
I'm reconing boiler and associated parts should be under a grand so I'm struggling to figure out where the money goes 
I know I live in Surrey but I'm still thinking the prices I've had seem a bit high.
cheers,
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:18 PM |
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well , its not cheap getting corgi registered , and moving flus/boilers is always a pain .
mind you the old man isnt so busy this xmas , your a bit far tho .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Alfa145
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:23 PM |
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Someone at work has just had their backboiler replaced with a combi including ripping out the back boiler and fitting a cheap electric fire in its
place and it cost them about £3000
Worcester Bosch combi boilers aint cheap but are meant to be good, the cheapest I saw on their site was about £750ish
Looking to get mine done in the next year so would be interested in what it has cost others to get it done.
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Howlor
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:39 PM |
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I am sure my dad paid around £1900 to have a simlar thing done. This included new pump, 3 poition valve fitted etc etc.
He needed bits like the gas pipe earthing etc as well.
Steve
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DarrenW
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:40 PM |
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I had old std boiler replaced with very nice Vaillaint recently. Old tanks etc removed. Boiler moved from kitchen to loft. System power flushed,
thermostatic valves fitted and a remote control room stat supplied (£100 on its own). Fully approved fitting with certs etc was £2000. The boiler was
more than half that alone. I thought £2000 was a bit steep but end result was great. Took just over 2 days.
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awinter
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:40 PM |
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£1500
Cost me 2 years ago, that was the Worcester Bosch 28kw. To have the boiler relocated from bathroom upstairs to utility room downstairs.
No wireless stat, they can be had for about £80 with receiver.
No rad valves, but they are not expensive an could be fitted by yourself when they drain the system.
Mine plugs into a socket so no wiring.
Gas pipe runs outside, needed extending.
I know the price of copper has gone up.
Allan
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mookaloid
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 02:51 PM |
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I'm a letting agent and I regularly get this sort of thing done.
Sounds like £1500 - £1800 to me.
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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alfasudsprint
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 04:18 PM |
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Trade price for a boiler would be around £500 ish.
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tegwin
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 04:28 PM |
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Hahaa....
This is funny...
I have just been quoted £1100 to have a boiler screwed to the existing pipework and wiring.... no more than half a day...
Thats nearly £200 an hour
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zetec
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 04:48 PM |
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Had mine done last weekend. I went out and bought a Valliant boiler (3year warranty) flue kit, valves thermostat etc. Plumber turned up with pipe and
bits as required. Charged me £250 a day (1 day) and £50 for some pipe and fittings etc. Suspect yours might be 2 days labour so £1500 sounds
resonable. Getting a decent plumber is the tricky bit.
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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andyp
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 05:00 PM |
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boiler
i've just replaced my back boiler for a condensing boiler.
had quote for £1500 from a plummer . but decided to do it myself and get the plummer to do the gas side only.
bought the boiler from screwfix for about £700. fitted trv's to all but one radiator. removed and cleaned all radiators(very important as new
boiler easily clogged)
also fitted a MAGNACLEAN(£80) to the radiator circuit to stop black muck getting to the boiler.
the price of copper seems to have jumped up but got it from screw fix(10x2m 22mm £55)
then you only need thermostat and timer.
all you do is run your 22mm from your boiler to your existing radiator circuit.
WICKS do a very good leaflet explaining were you can site your boiler( away from windows etc)
probably came to about £1000 in the end
plus price of plummer connecting gas
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 05:18 PM |
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As stated above - £1300 to £1500.
That's certainly what I can get it done for.
Somewhere slightly to the good of £3000 for a full system.
Having said that, I managed to get my last house done for around £800 for a full system. That was doing a lot myself and getting a family member who
is a plumber for the gas.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 05:18 PM |
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My grans just had her back boiler removed and a new ideal i think boiler put in and plumbed through, new timer etc. Was about 2 grand i think which
included moving the gas and flue etc. Not a combi i dont think though.
[Edited on 27/11/07 by Danozeman]
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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gezer
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 05:21 PM |
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I had a new system installed a couple of years ago,
the worcester bosh boiler is very good a couple of minor problems with the condensation tank leaking which was an easy fix just a pipe coming loose,
and dribbling
The wireless thermostat is F---ing useless it says 25 mtrs range,
i've had it replaced three times with it going wrong, plus twice at the boiler end, i does'nt want to know if there is any wiring within
3ft of it, or if any of the house electrics are in between it and the boiler in a straight line,
none of them worked more than 10ft from the boiler,
mine now sits 2ft6inch above the floor on the end of the kitchen units near the back door, this was the only place it would work reliably,
they do a hard wired version,
but plumbers don't like fitting them because its extra work to put the wireing in,
I'm to old to live and to young to die --- buggerit
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 05:53 PM |
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I can't really help you on the quotes as I never see how much our company quotes.
What I will advise is if its a big house that currently has a hot water cylinder and you use alot of hot water or like hot baths.. do NOT get a
combi!.
Either keep your existing cylinder set-up or whatever heats your water, or if your doing it to make space in the airing cupboard get a Unvented hot
water cylinder as these can be placed anywhere in the house.
Combi boilers really are ok for feeding the tap next to them in the kitchen etc but not very good for running a bath at the other end of the house.
To achieve a good temperature the flow rate is poor or visa versa, if you look the manufacturers quote the heat gain at a flow rate, say 45 Deg at
10L/min so if the incoming water is 8 deg then it isin't going to make it very warm.
Please think carefully as combi's aren't the be all and end all people make them out to be there just a quick easy instalation ans space
saving for people.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 06:06 PM |
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I have an ultra-reliable but quite old Baxi back boiler which is located in my basement that will probably need replacing at some stage. If and when
this dies, can I simply have another Baxi back boiler fitted? I simply can't see a suitable place in the house to locate a boiler that uses a
balanced flu.
Can you get condensing back boilers?
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 06:21 PM |
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You might be able to fit another back boiler but there is a points scoring system where you have to prove why you can't have a condensing
boiler.
Due to the way the work Condensing boilers have to be fan flued, as the flue gases have to go through a restricted heat exchangers/flue ways to the
point that they are condencing and are on the verge of no-longer naturally rising from the appliance.
This is where there name, and their efficiency comes from.
A condensing boiler can be put just about anywhere in the house provided the flue can get out somewhere (possibly even up the existing chimney if
there are no other appliances), there flues are goverend by how long the flue is and how restricted it is i.e 1 90 deg bend = 5m of length but they
can generally be alot longer than conventional flues as the fan is pushing the products of combustion out of the appliance rather than them naturally
rising.
[Edited on 27/11/07 by MkIndy7]
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splitrivet
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 06:56 PM |
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I agree with MKindy put a combi in our offices, waste of space takes 10 minutes to fill a basin let alone a bath.
When the boiler went at home asked a few plumbers and they all said dont bother with a combi, condensing is the way to go less to buy, easier to fit,
less to go wrong and most important cheaper to run.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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DavidM
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 06:58 PM |
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I had a new gloworm condensor boiler fitted last month to existing position + stat valves fitted to 14 radiators, together with associated sundries.
Cost £1500 from my local trusted plumber.
I think when you have plumbing work done the most important thing is to use someone you trust.
I also had a quote from British Gas for the same thing. £3200!
David
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GasGasGas
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 07:08 PM |
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worcester greenstar 28i junior £930.00 including flue, loop and clock!
£20.00 per trv max depends on the brand! 22mm copper @ £10.00 per 3 metres! plus labour probably about a day and a half to two days dependent on
the site ! It all depends on what you consider a reasonable deal but doing heating the lions share of your money goes on material costs.
hope this helps ned?
Drop me a line if you want it done and i'll see when i can fit you in? 
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zetec
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 07:11 PM |
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I ended up using a heat only, open vented boiler. All valves are external as is the pump so if any of them pack up they are easy to change, all
cntrolled by £50 control unit connected to the boiler so there shouldn't be much need to get someone in to fix things if they go wrong. agree
with thoughts on combi boiler, stick with hot water tank if poss.
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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dave1888
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 07:26 PM |
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I got a worcester bosch condensing boiler + 2 new rads fitted a year ago costing £2900. I got 3 quotes all within £50 of each other.
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pjavon
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 07:32 PM |
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Think i'll go on a night course to become a plumber
Paul
Always keep a big hammer and a condom in your toolbox, if you can't fix it with the hammer
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Macbeast
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 07:38 PM |
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Had mine done in North London 3 months ago. Vaillant Ecotech Pro. £3000.
10 hours work AND they cleared the old one away which not many firms round here do.
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billynomates
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| posted on 27/11/07 at 08:16 PM |
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And I thought you were all locosters, soo many of you paid thousands out for changing a boiler.
Unless I have been misinformed, you can actually fit your own gas appliances, as long as your not receiving payment for it.
And before everybody starts - I wouldn't condone doing it yourself unless you absolutely knew what you were doing.
But is fitting your own boiler anywhere near as risky as building (and then driving) your own car.
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