I'm back on the seat trail again having decided that my Lotus Elise seats are a little too 'sit up and beg'. My GT has a low roof and I
need the headroom. Width is not a problem (except the width of my backside)
I need a pair of seats which:
Are quite laid back, almost like a karting seat.
Extra wide for a 6' 2", 17 stone salad dodger
Ideally silver or grey fibreglass with smooth finish
If not already trimmed they need to be trimmable - even rubber pads are acceptable
I know that there will be seat manufacturers reading this so come on guys, what have you got for me?
Can do these in grey gel coat but better still why not have the entire face in carbon fibre
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Can tissue the backs if you are concerned about the matt finish (done anyway on carbon version)
Inserts available that need to be trimmed to suit
Still pondering on those seats for the Mini. What are the sizes and i will measure the Cobras i have at work to compare.
430mm wide at widest point and 875mm to top of seat from floor.......fit 6ft 6" 17st easy and comfy to boot.
Welderman - I should think your avatar must have really bad nipple rash by now!
smutty bloke has some ointment for that nasty rash
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Originally posted by Triton
Can do these in grey gel coat but better still why not have the entire face in carbon fibre
Razman....I can do some magic when making the seats to create more angle of dangle....what angle are you after?
Are Vx220 or mx5 seats adjustable, just a thought !
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Originally posted by jonno
Are Vx220 or mx5 seats adjustable, just a thought !
Drawing! blimey what's one of those!!
I have an outline i borrowed from somewhere that i can add the dimensions to if that helps?
Or you could mount the seat at an angle using side plates as i can bond the inserts into the sides
The trouble is when you lay the seat back, the front rises and pushes your thighs upwards.
If you could post a pic of the side view it would help me to visualise the angle.
Have you got anyone in my neck of the woods with one of your seats?
Here's a fairly standard jobby
and from the side
Don't think I have sent any to Essex.
I will have to fill in the dimensions tomorrow as don't have a seat here with me.
Thanks for the seat size. I'm off now to lube up those nipples.
Here's a Cobra standard bucket - these are very upright and a bit of a tight squeeze width wise. My missus got her butt stuck in one in Halfords
once
Raz man - have you tried wedging a plank of wood into the car as a dummy seat behind your back at the angle you want to lean back to. Then just
measure the angle by using an bubble degree gauge. You can then measure the angle of other seats. I sit with the back at 30 degrees from vertical
FWIW. Most standard touring car seats seem to be only 10 deg from vertical. It doesn't sound like much, but try it. You might imagine you need
45 degrees, but that would be extreme
Cheers
Fred WB
[Edited on 17/1/06 by Fred W B]
The witch's hat seat is same angle as Locost rear bulkhead @17degrees the others are nearer 25 degrees.
Triton,
What's tissue on the backs of the seats ?
Did you get my email regarding the dash boards ?
Cheers.
Our seats have the angle your looking for. Depending on which way you measure them, it's a 35 degree back rest angle from vertical (55 from
horizontal).
We used the technique Fred mentioned when designing our seats because we couldn't find one on the market that would suit the LMP, the closest we
could get was the kart seat shown in your picture. So we used that as a 'guide' and added leg support. There's a pic of them in this
forum area and in my photo archive...
Here ya go:
Turner seat
[Edited on 17/1/06 by tadltd]
Steve, The LMP looks as though it is very similar to my GT, at least in driving position. I think I can get away with 25-35 degrees which means your
seat is probably the closest so far.
I U2U you shortly mate
Fred, thanks for the tip regarding angles - although I havent got a bubble thingy I am pretty sure that your seat angle would be about right too. It
gives me a good guide regarding what to look for
Razman - Just rechecked my seat angle, actually is 32-33 degrees
Cheers
Fred WB
Surface tissue provides a better visual finish to the rear of the seat..And the angle is 30 degrees.
GRP seats weigh 4.5kgs
Carbon 4.2kgs
No need for extra mounting frames as built in mounting points
Ok...now I'm getting a little interested here.
I'm looking for a set for my Caterham SV and by feck I'm not shelling out £600 of a pair of GRP tillets, even if rimmed in gilt edging.
Alot of the seats tilletesque I've sat in are too flexible and has Triton points out I prefer the back section of the seat to be a better
finish.
Can you guys supply rigid, stronger GRP seats with the option of runners fittment?
I'll also be looking at either suade/alcantara fixings at the required areas. I can get my hands on the carpet finish Tillet use for the Caterham
and finish off the seats as look alikes.
Prices guys... ?
pics of all angles would be bonus guys...
cheers
RazMan..
Where did you get those seats???? They are exactly what we've been looking for! Especially the inserts, they look perfect - any details??
Chris
I got the pic from an eBay auction here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8028900898&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
The auction has ended but the contact details are still there. The guy's name is Len and he is very helpful.
I havent a clue who makes them - he is a distributor.
I liked the inserts too (not my choice of colour though) - a good compromise between race & road.
£190.00 per pair any colour delivered .
Cheers
Mark
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Thanks,
my prefered option would be some Triton seats with those inserts I think...
Chris
I wish they had been available when I was building my car! Shiney
Have you got those measurements Mark? Also where are the mounting points located?
Another question for Mark - are you open to visitors? Not sure when will be in the area but would be nice to have a sit in the seats!
Chris
More than welcome to park your bum in a seat next time you are in Cornwall.
Can I see the backs of the seats... have they got much thicker composite to prevent side flex.. the MK ones have a strengthened back section I think
They have a second skin laminated on whilst main section is till on the mould, not stuck on afterwards.
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Can you do the back of the seats shiny too.
With reference to Razman's photo and information about the burgundy inserts a page or so up the thread, Len Swan at Wildmore cars sent me this
email;
Hi Chris
Inserts are available seperately at a cost of 69.00 pound each seat plus post and packing at 12.00 pounds if you would like some please ring me on
XXXXXXX
Thanks
Len Swan wildmoor cars
Similar cushions are also available from Reverie, at similar (starting) prices. They have a lot of different choices in colour and material though
(I'm considering them for my seats too).
Marcel
Found 'em
I think I'll give their seats a miss though - my chosen one is over £2000 inc vat!!
[Edited on 20-1-06 by RazMan]
To make the seats with a gel coat back will require new pattern then new mould, you then have the problem of two seats to make one so the price will
reflect that, making them nearer £200 each.
I can use surface tissue as the last layer to achieve a smoother finish with a look similar to flocking.
Silver grey pigment is available no problem.
With recent happenings the seat I had lined up to be trimmed has yet to be taken to the trimmers for assesment.
Cheers
Mark
[Edited on 21/1/06 by Triton]
Thyanks Mark,
The tissue option sounds as though it would be ok - the seat backs will be visible but its not a breaking point.
The silver gel coat is a definite plus.and if blue upholstery or pads are available it just gets better.
One question though (well two really ) Is the 30 degree angle feasable and are there side mounting points built in?
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Originally posted by RazMan
Thyanks Mark,
The tissue option sounds as though it would be ok - the seat backs will be visible but its not a breaking point.
The silver gel coat is a definite plus.and if blue upholstery or pads are available it just gets better.
One question though (well two really ) Is the 30 degree angle feasable and are there side mounting points built in?
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
I can use surface tissue as the last layer to achieve a smoother finish with a look similar to flocking.
[Edited on 21/1/06 by Triton]
Cool....which type of seat mate? Will the flocking hide the matt finish enough then?....you know what is coming next...
How much....
Cheers
Mark
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Cool....which type of seat mate? Will the flocking hide the matt finish enough then?....you know what is coming next...
How much....
Cheers
Mark
Okey dokey