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Is early Zetec any good for locost
macintosh - 20/7/05 at 04:55 PM

Hi everyone,

I have possible donor Sierra 2.0L (1988) with early Zetec engine (possibly, not convinced).
Engine is quite high - 65 cm (25.6" )
Does it fit to locost?
Any other problems to foresee?

ChrisW - 20/7/05 at 05:02 PM

The Zetec was never fitted to the Sierra. You'll probably have the original DOHC (note two camshafts does NOT mean 16v!) which is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

Real Zetecs can be found in Mondeos and late Escorts/Orions. Going rate is about £100 for an engine and 'box and you can get £30-40 for the MTX75 that will come with it which covers your ignition system.

Chris

macintosh - 20/7/05 at 05:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
You'll probably have the original DOHC (note two camshafts does NOT mean 16v!) which is about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.


Hm, this is most definitely not DOCH, it is OCH as far as I can see.
Bit buzzled now.

Then it should be Zeta?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Zeta_engine
Anyway, dimensions do not fit to Pinto or CVH.

MikeRJ - 20/7/05 at 05:14 PM

If it's an OHC engine and it's not a Pinto then it must be a 1.8 CVH. Not a particularly great engine, but perfectly useable.

macintosh - 20/7/05 at 05:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
If it's an OHC engine and it's not a Pinto then it must be a 1.8 CVH. Not a particularly great engine, but perfectly useable.


No, no. It is 2.0 L, so it can not be 1.8 CHV.

ChrisW - 20/7/05 at 05:32 PM

Must be a Pinto then surely? Post up a photo and I'm sure we will be able to identify it.

FYI: All zetecs are DOHC 16v

Chris

Schrodinger - 20/7/05 at 05:33 PM

The early Zetec had Zetec on the cam cover, whereas the DOHC has just that on the cam cover, get the engine number and engine code which will help identify what it is or post a photo.

regards

Keith
Suffolk

scotty g - 20/7/05 at 05:46 PM

A few times now i have heard talk of an 8V zetec but i think its just cofusion as its the DOHC thats 8V and as mentioned above Zetecs were never fitted to Sierras. Having said that, i have also heard talk of a 16V version of the DOHC but never seen one?????????????

macintosh - 20/7/05 at 06:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Schrodinger
get the engine number and engine code which will help identify what it is or post a photo.


Can not get photo :-( (I know, photo would be best). Owner sent me following numbers from left side of engine (viewed from front):
205
JT68124
85HM6015BB
35020

Mr G - 20/7/05 at 06:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scotty gHaving said that, i have also heard talk of a 16V version of the DOHC but never seen one?????????????


You'll need to have a look under the bonnet of mk 5 Escort rs2000.

Failing that they popped them into some granada scorpios if i'm not mistaken.

Mr G - 20/7/05 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by macintosh
quote:
Originally posted by Schrodinger
get the engine number and engine code which will help identify what it is or post a photo.


Can not get photo :-( (I know, photo would be best). Owner sent me following numbers from left side of engine (viewed from front):
205
JT68124
85HM6015BB
35020



205 denotes Pinto

Project7 - 20/7/05 at 06:24 PM

quote:

whereas the DOHC has just that on the cam cover,


unfortunately the early zetec did have DOHC on the cam cover (up until '94 i believe) after that it said zetec.

As the engine is from a sierra it is likely to be the 8v DOHC or the 8v pinto.

macintosh - 20/7/05 at 06:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Project7
As the engine is from a sierra it is likely to be the 8v DOHC or the 8v pinto.


So, I'll bet for pinto then. Is it any good?
Or should I look for something better?

Price for whole car is 3000EEK=189EUR=230USD=125GBP
5 speed gearbox, built 1988

[Edited on 20-7-05 by macintosh]

pathfinder - 20/7/05 at 06:49 PM

205 block was also used for some cossies, if the engine has a turbo hanging of the side it should be good for your locost!

Mr G - 20/7/05 at 06:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by pathfinder
205 block was also used for some cossies, if the engine has a turbo hanging of the side it should be good for your locost!


I was going to mention that but he said it was definately OHC (or OCH )

Project7 - 20/7/05 at 07:33 PM

quote:
Is it any good?
Or should I look for something better?


Its well proven. Lots of companies have built their kits around this engine, and theres a good selection of tuning parts, so help and advice will be easy available.

You can always upgrade later on if you want something more exotic.

[Edited on 20/7/05 by Project7]

MikeRJ - 20/7/05 at 09:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by macintosh
quote:
Originally posted by Project7
As the engine is from a sierra it is likely to be the 8v DOHC or the 8v pinto.


So, I'll bet for pinto then. Is it any good?
Or should I look for something better?

Price for whole car is 3000EEK=189EUR=230USD=125GBP
5 speed gearbox, built 1988

[Edited on 20-7-05 by macintosh]


105bhp for carbed engine, 115bhp for injection. Vast amount of tuning bits available. Downsides are the enormous weight and the tall block. You will need to cut down the sump, and possibly relocate the oil filler on the cam cover.

bob - 22/7/05 at 08:34 AM

I'm sure it will be ok to make a start with,as said earlier you will have to chop the sump unless you can find an ali RS2000 sump also some people do re-locate the oil filler but it can be possible to get away with it.

Here's a pic,hope this helps Rescued attachment MK Indy build pics 157.jpg
Rescued attachment MK Indy build pics 157.jpg