l0rd
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 08:59 PM |
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Do manufacturers take the pi**?
When i was in Stoneleigh, I tried sitting in a couple of cars.
Why do all of them have fiberglass seats or really narrow ones?
I was really disappointed. I even tried a Viento and due to the seat, i couldn't sit properly on it.
I know it is for the looks but can't they get wider seats to fit the cockpit so everyone can try it? Why do i have to be 10 stones to try
one?
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JoelP
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:06 PM |
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you would think they would leave the seat loose so they could pull it and replace with cushions etc.
What weight and height are you?
[Edited on 2/5/10 by JoelP]
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omega0684
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:07 PM |
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you should have a sit in a DAX with Squab seats in them. Mt dad is 6'2" and about 17 st and he still says there really comfy!
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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austin man
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:07 PM |
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The Raw strikers seat is just a seat squab and a back so may be worth considering as you have all the cockpit width available. I have seen people at
16 stone fit in the fibreglass seats okay. As you say though it is for aesthetic purposes the Fibreglas seat is a race style and weight saving so make
u that bit quicker while also looking good
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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franky
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:14 PM |
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The Gkd legend fits the larger frame, ask peter who owns it!
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BenB
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:16 PM |
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It all depends on what seat you go for. My Kirkey racing seat in the STM chassis takes my 36" waist nicely....
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l0rd
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:17 PM |
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I am 6ft6" and 17stones
Yes fiberglass seats are nice looking and save a considerate weight but I am sure they could make some wider ones as well and that would be minimal
weight increase.
The only car that i have been in and was spot on on width was tilly819's Haynes Roadster with cobra seats. It needed though a couple of inches
in length to drive properly in the leg area.
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JoelP
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:18 PM |
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its the aesthetics thats the hard bit, as you could just pad the cockpit and do without a seat at all. Would save plenty of space and weight, just
maybe look naff. Never bothered me though!
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b16mts
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:30 PM |
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I dont even bother trying tbh. I hadn't even sat in the driving seat of a kit car before I bought my full kit from tiger, and even then
I've had to make some adjustments for my ample frame.
my names Martin...I'm 6'5"....18 stone of relaxed muscle....and I drive a Tiger supercat
I feel better for talking about.
Martin
who says you can't drive a kit car when you're 6'5"?
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austin man
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:30 PM |
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My car is plus 4" I have also narrowed the tunnel and have a set of Mamba seats. plenty of comfort and width
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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ReMan
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:39 PM |
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Cobra's for me too
From my bodybuilding and Rugby days I have very big shouldders, I'm 16 1/2 st and 5.10
shell seats are to narrow for me to fit IN
Cobras I sit ON nicely
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l0rd
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:41 PM |
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What i mean to say is
If you were to order a car and wanted to see if you can fit in one before you make your mind you should be able to do this.
I believe that the Viento was long enough for my legs but i couldn't fit on it due to the seat.
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big_l
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 09:55 PM |
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Did you try the gbs zero 7 nice wide and comfy also still a bit racey !!!
Check out my blog  mnrvortxhayabusa@blogspot.com
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l0rd
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 10:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_l
Did you try the gbs zero 7 nice wide and comfy also still a bit racey !!!
Yes I did actually.
I got one leg in. That was it. Then i spend 1 min trying to get out as the second leg was stuck.
You are all missing the point though and probably i haven't explained it properly.
Why would manufacturers build bigger cars and wider and compromise on Shell seats that still only a 10 stone person can fit in it.
From what i know, the first feeling is the one that matters.
If i had the cash in hand to order a Viento (as an example of the biggest kit car) today and all i had to do was try the car to see if this is what i
wanted, that seat just put me off completely. It wasn't a shell seat but a proper narrow bucket style.
Still though shouldn't they try to get the most comfortable seats so more people can fit in it? Then, if you want a different narrower seat,
just change it.
[Edited on 2/5/10 by l0rd]
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fesycresy
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 05:55 AM |
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It's all about looks.....
You (and I) are in the minority. The majority of owners are 6' max.
You need to get to the factory and sit in a bare chassis. I gave up trying to sit in them years ago too.
MNR's are deceptively big, Dax LWB very long and the Viento is just, well, big!
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 06:35 AM |
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MK Indy - I am probally the tallest member at 6'6" and 181/2 stone and fit my MK Indy with MK shell seats perfectly. Barry
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 06:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
What i mean to say is
If you were to order a car and wanted to see if you can fit in one before you make your mind you should be able to do this.
I believe that the Viento was long enough for my legs but i couldn't fit on it due to the seat.
↲↲I know what your
saying, you should have come out to the Luego owners display area and tried some of our seats. I'm 6' 4" 20st and VERY broad in
shoulders and hips. I'm very comfy in my Viento.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 07:35 AM |
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The seats may not have suited you but surely the picnic basket on the Viento did?
As Clive (JGG) pointed out you should have tried a few cars on the owners club pitches. I can confirm that Clive is a little on the large size as
are a few other Viento owners, thats why they brought a Viento.
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mid-buggy
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 08:02 AM |
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They can only take so many things, and if that means only 1 car, then they take the car which suits the majority rather than the minority.
I dont think many kit car compaines can afford to have 8 cars (for instance) which shows all the different seats, engines and dial set ups.
(westfield had more than that I know, but they are a big player in the kit industry)
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franky
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 08:04 AM |
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They do it as they're cheaper and think that everyone wants to save the last few kg's when in real terms 99 percent of people
couldn't tell if their car was 5-10kgs to the worse, pub type banter! IMO most of the
plastic seats ruin the look/finish of some cars when the rest is done to such a high standard.
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l0rd
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 08:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mid-buggy
(westfield had more than that I know, but they are a big player in the kit industry)
Yes they are and they didn't even have their new model that passed the European Safety Test and is ECC approved.
WELL done Westfield.
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whitestu
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 08:41 AM |
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MK Indy - I am probally the tallest member at 6'6" and 181/2 stone and fit my MK Indy with MK shell seats perfectly. Barry
How? I'm 6'3" and 13.5 stone and couldn't get in the MK fibreglass seats comfortably!
Cobra Roadsters are very comfy though.
Stu
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bi22le
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 12:27 PM |
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Raw Strikers are one of the thinnest cars in the market. They can seat a tall thin person but I dont think a 16st person would be too comfy. I think
the reason Raw have bench seats is because they are that small. I do have a GRP seat for it but only one make fits. The standard ones are too big to
fit in the space. Lucky im 5'9" and about 12 1/2 st really.
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