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chrisbeale

posted on 10/11/11 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
legal seatbelts and mot's

are there specific things an mot inspector will look for in a seat belt. i am still on the hunt for racing green ones to match the body colour and all i could find were these
GREEN 4 POINT RACING SEAT BELT HARNESS FOR CAR/TRACK DAY/OFF ROAD BUGGY NEW | eBay
Passion Automotive - GREEN 4 POINT RACING SEAT BELT HARNESS FOR CAR/TRACK DAY/OFF ROAD BUGGY NEW

it says they are for off road use though. would an mot inspector know?

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blakep82

posted on 10/11/11 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
do you want to rely on something that may not be up to the job if there was a crash? fine to stop you falling out a buggy rolling over, but a motorway crash for example, er naw mate.
did you try Prima motorsport as i suggested before? they'll make the belts to the spec you need. not sure if they have BRG though, but ask them!





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jacko

posted on 10/11/11 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
They look ok to me they have the correct buckle with the red button the only thing is it doesn't look as if it has a BS tag

just had a look again and there are lots of rules and regulations at the bottom of the page

[Edited on 10/11/11 by jacko]

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chrisbeale

posted on 10/11/11 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
yeah i have emailed them and still waiting on a reply, will email again.
half of me thinks they will be fine, the other half not so sure but then if i did have an accident on the motorway etc, what are the chances of not loosinf my head anyway?

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blakep82

posted on 10/11/11 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
weird, when i contacted them last year they were back to me straight away!
you're right, a motorway crash is coing to be be pretty hopeless with or without belts, but you see what i'm meaning. i wouldn't be happy with them in my car.





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chrisbeale

posted on 10/11/11 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
lets hope they get back to me soon
cheers

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JoelP

posted on 10/11/11 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
If for any reason you dont want a seat belt to be tested, fit a childs car seat (obviously thats no good for the drivers seat!). Last mot i had, the cert said 'not tested due to child seat fitted'.






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owelly

posted on 10/11/11 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
Joel, your MOT guy was wrong. If child seats are fitted, he should have refused to test the car until you removed them. Same goes for if the rear seats are folded down as they have to be upright and secure when presented for test.





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DRC INDY 7

posted on 10/11/11 at 11:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Joel, your MOT guy was wrong. If child seats are fitted, he should have refused to test the car until you removed them. Same goes for if the rear seats are folded down as they have to be upright and secure when presented for test.





Rubbish if a child seat is fitted then its a pass and advise it is on the list of non component related advisories

tested as presented


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mad4x4

posted on 11/11/11 at 06:13 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DRC INDY 7
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Joel, your MOT guy was wrong. If child seats are fitted, he should have refused to test the car until you removed them. Same goes for if the rear seats are folded down as they have to be upright and secure when presented for test.





Rubbish if a child seat is fitted then its a pass and advise it is on the list of non component related advisories

tested as presented


[Edited on 11/10/2011 by DRC INDY 7]


I would want the belt that holds in my child's seat tested otherwise I'd be as well sitting the child in the adult seat without a belt..... Should be an extra test to ensure seat complies and is safe.!





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steve m

posted on 11/11/11 at 06:26 AM Reply With Quote
I have been in my mot place, when the tester made the customer take out the child seat, so he can test the belts etc
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owelly

posted on 11/11/11 at 08:52 AM Reply With Quote
Seat belts and child seats:
Child seat(s) retained by seat belt(s) must not be removed. A visual examination is required of only those parts of the seat belt(s) which are readily accessible.

However, if you cannot clearly inspect the anchorage points because of the child seats (unless the anchor points are an integral part of the seat) then that is a reason to refuse the MOT.

As instructed at a recent MOT refresher course!





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DRC INDY 7

posted on 11/11/11 at 11:07 AM Reply With Quote
page 5.2 of the online mot manual seat belt condition

This inspection applies to all seat belts fitted including child seats/restraints etc. However the reasons for rejection should only be applied to those permanently attached to the vehicle ie secured by using Isofix mountings or nuts, bolt etc. Presenters should be advised of any effects on non-testable items






child seat(s) retained by seat belt(s) must not be removed. A visual examination is required of only those parts of the seat belt(s) which are readily accessible


Like i have said before child seats secured with the vehicle seat belt that passes the visual inspection is a pass and advise under non component related advisories

I also put it to you that when inspecting a vehicle that most seat belt anchoridge points are not available to inspect because they are covered up by trims seat bases etc


The mot is the min standard not the o i dont like that so i am going to fail it regardless of what is laid down in the mot manual!!!!!!!!!!





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DRC INDY 7

posted on 11/11/11 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by steve m
I have been in my mot place, when the tester made the customer take out the child seat, so he can test the belts etc




These are the type of people that used to fail batteries for being insecure that again is not tested

It will become part of the mot test in january 2012 for the first time along with inner cv boots loose wiring etc





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chrisbeale

posted on 11/11/11 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
Ok, I don't have child seats in it and I couldn't read anything saying they had to be of a certain standard.
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cjwood23

posted on 14/11/11 at 12:16 PM Reply With Quote
TRS will do there harnesses in green - not sure if it's dark enough though.

Robin hood Westfield Locost Caterham TRS harness GREEN | eBay





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chrisbeale

posted on 14/11/11 at 12:27 PM Reply With Quote
That's great, well found. Have sent them an email. Cheers.
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