coozer
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 12:21 PM |
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Title belongs to the Dutton chassis, so its a RINGER! Stolen or not...
There's also avoidance of tax to think about.
Its all wrong!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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baldeagle
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 12:24 PM |
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Call the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111
Thanks Ady
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Shandylegs
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 01:40 PM |
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Think everyone needs to be very careful in their wording. Not saying it’s right, but there are many cars that have dubious origins – Looks at some the
of Ford rally car registrations from the 1970’s.
Few scenario’s for you to comment on:
1) If you bent your new tin-top and it was re-shelled also with new suspension components, should that keep the same registration?
2) Your 1980’s Westfield needed a new frame and at the same time as rebuilding you replaced the bodywork and upgraded the suspension, should this be
subject to and IVA?
3) You started out and built a Dutton in the 1970’s. The car has been constantly upgraded slowly over the last 30 years, so much so that none of the
original components remain – When does it stop being a Dutton?
I would love to gain everyone’s view on the above scenarios!
Until there is clear guidance from the DVLA – which will never happen as the changes required would be too large - this will continue to happen.
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coozer
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 01:44 PM |
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1. No, it should go to IVA
2. Yes
3. When it becomes an MK
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 01:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
1. No, it should go to IVA
2. Yes
3. When it becomes an MK
+1 as per the fairly clear guidance from the DVLA.
on point 3, it stops being a dutton as registered once you touch the chassis.
Craig
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FFTS
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 01:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
3. When it becomes an MK
Hahah 
Nice answer!
Chris.
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Shandylegs
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 posted on 23/6/10 at 01:59 PM |
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Quite agree with you, other than scenario 3 – which although unlikely could happen.
Whereas, without casting aspersions of any kind, I can think of times where forum members have totalled their cars necessitating new frames, bodywork
and suspension and not one negative comment has ever been made when their car re-appears wearing the same registration number.
The only point I’m trying to make is that perhaps people shouldn’t be so quick to throw stones
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 02:09 PM |
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Although legally theres little difference between a ringer and a fully rebuilt car I think in practice there is.
I'm definitely more comfortable with the thought that a car that has been through IVA has had its chassis swapped out after a prang than knowing
an untested car is on the road using the identity of a completely separate vehicle.
Craig
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iank
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 02:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Shandylegs
Quite agree with you, other than scenario 3 – which although unlikely could happen.
Whereas, without casting aspersions of any kind, I can think of times where forum members have totalled their cars necessitating new frames, bodywork
and suspension and not one negative comment has ever been made when their car re-appears wearing the same registration number.
The only point I’m trying to make is that perhaps people shouldn’t be so quick to throw stones
If you read the DVLA website it's completely clear. If you total the car and replace the chassis it's completely legal if, and only if,
the chassis is OEM spec. Replace an MK chassis with a new MK chassis and it's a repair. Replace it with an MNR chassis and it needs an IVA.
Same with tintops - if you can buy an OEM spec bodyshell (for example a Heritage MGB or mini shell) then you can keep the registration etc.
In this case it's obvious as this is a Dutton Sierra (not even a Phaeton which at least looks a bit like a 7 and is a 2 seater sportscar).
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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iank
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 02:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Minicooper
What heavy price would that be?
It's not a ringer, it's just not correctly registered, as long as this is allowed for in the price ie cheap then it's not a big deal
is it?
Cheers
David
As a matter of interest how do you know it's not a stolen car that's had a dead kit's V5 put on it to make it look more
legitimate?
Given it seems possible he's sold more than one kit with a dodgy V5's you have to wonder where they're coming from.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Humbug
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| posted on 23/6/10 at 04:57 PM |
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Another opportunity
here
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