ReMan
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 09:45 PM |
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aNOTHER eBAY RANT :-(
Is it just me, but the last 2 items i've listed, eBay has FORCED me to give FREE postage! 
Apparantly due to feedback from buyers
Now I don't want ripping off for postage any more than the next man, but if Imy item sold for the 99p that I start at then i'd be selling
at a loss.
So what do you have to do? Add the postage in to the price of the item..
Guess what, the listing fee has just gone up
And some more
I cant see any way round it other than listing the items in a completely different category? That going to help my sale-not
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 09:49 PM |
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set a higher starting price?
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55ant
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 09:50 PM |
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i still buy things of ebay but am never suprised when things go wrong, but i have given up selling on there now, pain in the arse, it used to be a
place to get difficult to find stuff at a fair price, now people want whatever you sell for nothing, except ebay corp, they want your money!
away from cars, now cycling and building TT bikes
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 09:51 PM |
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But that increases the listing fee. eBay wins.
Honestly if someone came up with a good alternative then sellers would leave eBay in droves.
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myke pocock
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 09:58 PM |
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Just sold three items on ebay, SPECIFICALLY stating in the listing that I wanted paying by cheque, then 5 days to clear and I would post. What have
two done? Payed by PayPal and theres nought I can do. Thing is you cannot list anything for sale without having to offer PayPal as an option so those
brain deads who cannot read the listing properly, even with me sending an invoice stating the cheque method, get away with it. DOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!
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Canada EH!
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 posted on 25/11/09 at 10:16 PM |
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Was looking at a header from California, header $79.00 USD, $82.00 CDN.
Seller wanted $75.00 USD for shipping, taxes, brokerage fees.
Because we build Fords Chryslers and GM's in Canada and ship them to the States there is no duty on auto parts between the two nations.
If the part is Mailed instead of Couriered there is only Provincial tax due on arrival, so what is the scam?
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Blackbird Rush
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 10:27 PM |
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Me too!!
Just had a mail from a buyer not happy with P&P costs after they won and received the items (very happy with the items though)
Being threatened with bad feedback if a compromise is not made
Some people are real skin flints, a couple of quid for P&P materials and MY time posting it i think is reasonable but obviously not to the buyer
(who accepted the cost by bidding in the first place!)
Sorry to hijack your rant.....
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UncleFista
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 10:28 PM |
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Personally, I'm all for it 
I'm sick of having to sift through auctions looking for honest sellers with reasonable p+p.
Too many sell items for peanuts and bump the price up with postage, avoiding final value fees.
Everyone selling items in a category where they have to provide free p+p are in the same boat. It's not affected my sales (over 2500
feedback).
Just my two-pennorth
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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ReMan
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| posted on 25/11/09 at 10:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
But that increases the listing fee. eBay wins.
Honestly if someone came up with a good alternative then sellers would leave eBay in droves.
That the point I'm getting at, it's about Ebay winning no-one else.
BUT, i'm not sure that you could crteate anything better as the idiots will all follow
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RK
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 12:16 AM |
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It's all a little too much like Canadian banks: you win, they win. You lose, they win. If I could put it under my mattress I'd do it, but
then I'd forget about it and eventually throw it away.
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 12:57 AM |
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^ hmm, but these are all businesses. of course they're out to make money lol
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r1_pete
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 08:32 AM |
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eBay is just out to protect buyers.
I listed two identical bike Chrome parts, both sold, one guy very happy, the other not, and wants a refund because there are some marks on the chrome,
clearly visible in the pic, and its 40 years old FFS, anyway refunds him, and blocks him from my future auctions.
Then I list a set of new exhausts for the same bike, Tosser above tries to bid, and finds he's blocked, moans at me, I told him I don't
want his business. Reports me to eBay and they can my listing!!!!!
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jabs
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 08:40 AM |
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What bugs me is their VERO procedure or lack of itl. I sell loads of secondhand hairstraighteners from a well known brand, I have feedback of over 600
with 100% One day the brands owner decided my listings are for fakes so I am banned from listing for a week and the listings removed. All I can do is
appeal to the brands owner but they do not have to reply or give any reasons.
Screws my business for a week
Case of your guilty cos we say so and you cannot appeal - that sucks.
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 09:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
Is it just me, but the last 2 items i've listed, eBay has FORCED me to give FREE postage!
What are these items? Then I can nsympathcise with you or not 
I hate it when sellers hike up postage to ludicrous levels and sell items cheap in order to avoid fees -
e.g.
Even though I pay the same amount of money in total, I feel ripped off then I paid £ 30 for post and item arrives in measly envelopewith one 2nd class
stamp
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johnston
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 10:55 AM |
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any games like PS3 Xbox NDS etc etc have to have free P&P
We've been selling our old ones off in dribs and drabs and its a pain in the ass. If you look on Ebays own discussion forum there is loads of
complaints as I think CDs Tapes DVDs and LPs are all free P&p as well
Ebays reason because THEY are competing with online shops like Amazon Play.com etc etc .
Their answer inc P&P in starting bid which of course increases their cut, infact means they are getting a slice of royal mails money.
Away round it, get a mate to bid if they win cut your loses if they don't well they just got the bid to a reasonable amount.
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Benzine
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 11:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by johnston
Away round it, get a mate to bid if they win cut your loses if they don't well they just got the bid to a reasonable amount.
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 11:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by johnston
I think CDs Tapes DVDs and LPs are all free P&p as well
Ebays reason because THEY are competing with online shops like Amazon Play.com etc etc .
funny, I've notiuce a few CDs being free p+p - it was kinda annoying that p+p could be £ 1.50 to £ 2.00 and then it arriving in an envelope adnd
2nd class stamp!!!
And as you say, that hike in p+p would make amazon more competivie plus you don;t have the hassle of being outbid.
In the end, no matter what happens, ebay is quids in, only wish I had invented it!!!
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Steve G
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 12:44 PM |
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I really cant stand Ebay's business practices but as stated there just isnt a decent alternative yet. I have sold a few things recently and have
you ever tried getting a definative answer as to their fee structure?? Its buried pretty deep within the system and took me ages to find!! Considering
its the sellers that provide most of their income, you'd think they'd actually try to me more level handed with disputes - but they always
seem to side with buyers no matter how ridiculous their claims. Grrrrrr
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roadrunner
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 01:01 PM |
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Is it just me , or do you not see the postage amount before you bid on an item. If the postage is too high dont bid or bid a slightly lower amount to
compensate.
It's no good agreeing to terms then complaining about them afterwards.
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 02:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
Is it just me , or do you not see the postage amount before you bid on an item. If the postage is too high dont bid or bid a slightly lower amount to
compensate.
Who, moi? If someone wants more than £ 1.50 for a regular CD, then I don't bid.
If I win a CD and postage/packing is put to be £ 1.50 and comes in a regular envelope with a regular 2nd class stamp, all of which cost 40 p or so,
then yes, why shouldn't I feel like I've been ripped off?
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Staple balls
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 02:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
If I win a CD and postage/packing is put to be £ 1.50 and comes in a regular envelope with a regular 2nd class stamp, all of which cost 40 p or so,
then yes, why shouldn't I feel like I've been ripped off?
Why would you? You got what you paid for, for what you agreed to pay for it.
I don't particularly like the low price/high shipping thing on ebay, but if it works out the same price as someone quoting shipping accurately,
who gives a crap?
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ReMan
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 02:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
Is it just me, but the last 2 items i've listed, eBay has FORCED me to give FREE postage!
What are these items? Then I can nsympathcise with you or not
I hate it when sellers hike up postage to ludicrous levels and sell items cheap in order to avoid fees -
e.g.
Even though I pay the same amount of money in total, I feel ripped off then I paid £ 30 for post and item arrives in measly envelopewith one 2nd class
stamp
One of the items were magazines 
The other was BJ printer inks.
I don't think £2-3 is a rip off particularly as I wont send anything without recorderd delivery ( again to avoid ebay bias towards the buyer
claiming non delivery)
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ReMan
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| posted on 26/11/09 at 02:53 PM |
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In fact, in advance of an official plugging post later here are the items
Link
Link 2
There are also Locost parts that will let me charge what I want for postage!
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