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brookie

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
zx10 or zx12

taking it to consideration price difference if there is one, weight off the two unit and also the bhp which engine would u consider the best for your money
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daniel mason

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:43 PM Reply With Quote
not too sure on price but i would probably go zx12 or if money was no problem a zzr1400

[Edited on 8/2/11 by daniel mason]






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franky

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:43 PM Reply With Quote
a zx10 makes zx12 and even 14 power in a bike...
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bigrich

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
zx12 probably a bit cheaper than a zx10 due to age of engine
zx10 a good chunk lighter
zx12 a good chunk torquier
both have similar BHP
zx10 needs a 3.38 sierra diff or 3.21 freelander zx12 seems ok on 3.62 sierra

If your building a real light car the 10 would be my choice, if you will carry a passenger for any length of time the 12 may have an edge, but not by much.







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brookie

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
my fitted with the seirra 3.62 diff with independant drive shafts how much would a 3.38 diff cost me than to run the zx10
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zilspeed

posted on 8/2/11 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
Scott Sheridan performed several giant slaying acts with a ZX10r in his Indy in last year's Scottish hills and sprints.

The ZX10r seems to be a good call.






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yorkshire-engines

posted on 8/2/11 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
Scott Sheridon s motor was a 08/9 zx10 and he wooped em with it

also supplied a few other s from north of the border with zx10 they all agree better than there old motors

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 8/2/11 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
I had a Indy with a zx10r, great engine on road and track, but Ive also driven a zx12r engined car on track and I would say although there's not alot in it the zx12r had the edge, like Bigrich says if your building a scratch built car, and are able to make it super light, the zx10r is a nice motor, but if your retro fitting one into your car I would go for the zx12r, you can keep your diff and shafts
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Moorron

posted on 8/2/11 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
ZX12R gets my vote

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as i dont know how to embed heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnJaIzUgb-E

[Edited on 8/2/11 by Moorron]





Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.

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brookie

posted on 8/2/11 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moorron
ZX12R gets my vote

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as i dont know how to embed heres the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnJaIzUgb-E

[Edited on 8/2/11 by Moorron]


so that yours m8 was looking at the videos at the weekend m8

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brookie

posted on 8/2/11 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
what bhp would i get then with a power commander and a good air filter for both the zx10 and zx12
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bob tatt

posted on 8/2/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
busa its the only way and they dont have a clutch made from cheese like the 12r

discuss

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bob tatt

posted on 8/2/11 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
have you got bored of the blade lump already dosent seem two minutes since you got it
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sorens2

posted on 8/2/11 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
I have the ZX12.
Tried a R1 and Im never going down there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVSLAhb3xkU

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BobM

posted on 9/2/11 at 06:04 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brookie
what bhp would i get then with a power commander and a good air filter for both the zx10 and zx12
Both should produce about 160bhp at the wheels but as has been stated the ZX12 will have more torque and therefore be more drivable. The 12's a heavier engine and some will argue it's better dry sumped making it even heavier - John Cutmore was running his wet sumped in RGB last year and went through more engines than I had hot dinners.

Not much in it price wise, the 10 is probably slightly cheaper, especially if taking dry sump into consideration. Gearing could be an issue in a front engined car.

AB Performance do a baffled billet sump for the 10.





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orton1966

posted on 9/2/11 at 06:31 AM Reply With Quote
I decided on a ZX12r

Although I haven’t fitted it yet I decided on a ZX12r, my thinking was as follows:

Weight between possible engines is less important in a car because the total vehicle weight is about twice that of the bike, this halving the effect of any difference, all bike options are much lighter than equivalent powered car engines.

Torque is king in a car, because of the extra weight a flatter power curve and more torque will make it ‘real world’ faster than a similar powered but more peaky engine.

As for price I had narrowed my choice to ZX12 and Busa, the zx12 produces similar power to a pre 08 Busa and costs about half as much. Even including a billet swing sump from AB it still came out way cheaper than any Busa option

At the end of the day we’re all comparing apples with apples they’re all good engines, price and personal preference will probably make the final decision for you

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Hellfire

posted on 9/2/11 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob tatt
busa its the only way and they dont have a clutch made from cheese like the 12r

discuss


Numerous track days, drag events and over 15,000 miles of road driving and still on the original clutch....... I believe simpletons thought that the moon was made of cheese too?

Discussed

Phil






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scootz

posted on 9/2/11 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
....... I believe simpletons thought that the moon was made of cheese too?



It's not!!!???







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brookie

posted on 9/2/11 at 01:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob tatt
have you got bored of the blade lump already dosent seem two minutes since you got it






no m8 just looking to next winter m8

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