scootz
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:06 PM |
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Which GRP Seats Have Gel-Coat on the Rear
My biggest bug-bear about most kit-oriented GRP seats is the nasty rough finish on the rear and sides.
Does anyone know of any manufacturers who gel-coat all faces?
It's Evolution Baby!
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twybrow
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:12 PM |
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The method they use to make them, there is little advantage other than making it the same colour. It will never have the same finished surface look as
it isn't a moulded surface....
Buy a pot of gelcoat (well flowcoat really) and apply it yourself!
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plentywahalla
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:13 PM |
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Technically the finish on the back would be a Flo-coat. Mix of Gel-Coat, Resin and Paraffin Wax.
Most manufacturers wouldn't do it because it adds weight without adding strength. a better solution would be surfacing tissue. Not as smooth but
much lighter.
Rules are for the guidance of wise men ... and the obedience of fools. (anon)
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scootz
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
Buy a pot of gelcoat (well flowcoat really) and apply it yourself!
Cheers... is it that straightforward?
It's Evolution Baby!
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loggyboy
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:14 PM |
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Judging by the pics ive seen of JK ones, some of them look gloss, maybe its an option?. (not the pics on their site btw as they are all low res front
shots)
[Edited on 1/3/12 by loggyboy]
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twybrow
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
Buy a pot of gelcoat (well flowcoat really) and apply it yourself!
Cheers... is it that straightforward?
Yes - mix it with 2% catalyst, and apply like paint.... Voila!
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scootz
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 07:24 PM |
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Well hurrah and huzzah (whatever that actually means!). Will give it a go when the time comes! 
It's Evolution Baby!
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daviep
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 09:11 PM |
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Another option would be flocking.
Cheers
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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loggyboy
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 09:17 PM |
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Vinyl wrap?
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ashg
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 09:39 PM |
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tillett...................................
will match carbon tub loverly jubberley tubberly.....
dont forget to buy the wrong size and sell them to me for half price before you get the correct ones. 
[Edited on 1/3/2012 by ashg]
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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Andybarbet
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 09:44 PM |
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When I asked about Triton seats rear finish ages ago, he mentioned the option of adding some sort of paper to the back of the seat when they are made,
apparently it gives a 'neater' finish.
Just found the reply:
'If you let me have your email address I will send you some pics of the backs but the standard finish is matt....I can however finish the backs
as per the superlite seats with surface tissue which gives a much nicer smoother finish. £5.00 per pair extra for the tissue'
I did ask for some pictures but never got them.
Has anyone else got Triton seats with this finish on the back ??
Im going to go for GRP seats when i get round to needing seats (probably about 5 years judging by current progress) but i am with you on this one
scootz, it would be nice to have a neater finish on the rear, especially as im short because the driver seat will be well forward of the interior ali
back panel.
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ReMan
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 10:31 PM |
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Does nobody do the "double skinned" seats anymore?
www.plusnine.co.uk
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Davegtst
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 10:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andybarbet
When I asked about Triton seats rear finish ages ago, he mentioned the option of adding some sort of paper to the back of the seat when they are made,
apparently it gives a 'neater' finish.
Just found the reply:
'If you let me have your email address I will send you some pics of the backs but the standard finish is matt....I can however finish the backs
as per the superlite seats with surface tissue which gives a much nicer smoother finish. £5.00 per pair extra for the tissue'
I did ask for some pictures but never got them.
Has anyone else got Triton seats with this finish on the back ??
Im going to go for GRP seats when i get round to needing seats (probably about 5 years judging by current progress) but i am with you on this one
scootz, it would be nice to have a neater finish on the rear, especially as im short because the driver seat will be well forward of the interior ali
back panel.
I wish I was given this option. I have triton seats and the rough finish on the back really let them down.
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Chippy
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| posted on 1/3/12 at 10:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
Buy a pot of gelcoat (well flowcoat really) and apply it yourself!
Cheers... is it that straightforward?
Well not quite, for a start you will only be able to apply one coat due to the wax content, and very often that will come out too thin. What you need
to do is apply a couple, or more, coats of gelcoat, they won't fully dry, but will stay tacky, once you have enough thickness, then apply a coat
of flowcoat, this will set hard, and because it excludes air from the gelcoat that will set hard as well. Then get the wet and dry out, (400 grit),
and cut back to a nice flat surface, then buff to a high shine. HTH Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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twybrow
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| posted on 7/3/12 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
Buy a pot of gelcoat (well flowcoat really) and apply it yourself!
Cheers... is it that straightforward?
Well not quite, for a start you will only be able to apply one coat due to the wax content, and very often that will come out too thin. What you need
to do is apply a couple, or more, coats of gelcoat, they won't fully dry, but will stay tacky, once you have enough thickness, then apply a coat
of flowcoat, this will set hard, and because it excludes air from the gelcoat that will set hard as well. Then get the wet and dry out, (400 grit),
and cut back to a nice flat surface, then buff to a high shine. HTH Ray
Crikey Chippy - he opnly wants a visual improvement, not to build massive thickness in the gel/flowcoat...
Yes - with flowcoat you typically only do one coat, but it usually covers very well - certainly enough in one pass to cover the worst of the csm matt
print. If you want to build the thickness, dont bother with flowcaot, but instead buy gelcoat, and a small pot of wax to add to the gelcoat for the
final layer...
Dont make it out to sound difficult - it really isn''t tricky stuff to use!
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mabbs
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| posted on 10/3/12 at 09:32 AM |
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I also wanted a smooth finish to the rear of my carbon fibre pre-preg seats. The easiest way to acheive this is to spray them. The process was to
flat them back with 240 grit, then used a high build polyester based primer to get a smooth surface. They were as rough if not rougher than GRP seat
backs before paint. Then finshed with the colour coat and lacquer. Went with the Mclaren chrome paint to fit the scheme of my car:
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40inches
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| posted on 10/3/12 at 11:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mabbs
I also wanted a smooth finish to the rear of my carbon fibre pre-preg seats. The easiest way to acheive this is to spray them. The process was to
flat them back with 240 grit, then used a high build polyester based primer to get a smooth surface. They were as rough if not rougher than GRP seat
backs before paint. Then finshed with the colour coat and lacquer. Went with the Mclaren chrome paint to fit the scheme of my car:
Wow! Superb!
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scootz
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| posted on 10/3/12 at 11:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mabbs
I also wanted a smooth finish to the rear of my carbon fibre pre-preg seats. The easiest way to acheive this is to spray them. The process was to
flat them back with 240 grit, then used a high build polyester based primer to get a smooth surface. They were as rough if not rougher than GRP seat
backs before paint. Then finshed with the colour coat and lacquer. Went with the Mclaren chrome paint to fit the scheme of my car:
Looks really good... who did you get the seats from?
It's Evolution Baby!
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andy996tt
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| posted on 16/3/12 at 07:54 AM |
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JK composites seats dont have a Gel coat back but they have a very neat pattern which I think looks fine
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mabbs
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| posted on 17/3/12 at 09:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by mabbs
I also wanted a smooth finish to the rear of my carbon fibre pre-preg seats. The easiest way to acheive this is to spray them. The process was to
flat them back with 240 grit, then used a high build polyester based primer to get a smooth surface. They were as rough if not rougher than GRP seat
backs before paint. Then finshed with the colour coat and lacquer. Went with the Mclaren chrome paint to fit the scheme of my car:
Looks really good... who did you get the seats from?
One of my customers:
http://streamlinecarbon.com/v2/products-page/seats/sc1-carbon-fibre-racing-seat/
Very good quality
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