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the JoKeR

posted on 20/3/05 at 04:24 AM Reply With Quote
Floor Idea

It appears that most people weld and/or rivet steel sheet to the bottom of the body, and that also becomes the inside floor. Is there any reason NOT to put a 1" layer of rigid insulation on top of that and then cover it all with another sheet? The result should be a nice smooth floor, which would have a lot less road noise. It looks like you'd lose an inch in footroom height, but is that a huge problem?

I did something similar with a truck I built using 2" rigid foam insulation, and the difference in noise was incredible. It actually worked so well, I'm doing it again on the truck I'm trying to finish so I can start my Locost!

This is the top of the rear fender, sheeting and fender skins have yet to be installed.






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RazMan

posted on 20/3/05 at 08:59 AM Reply With Quote
My thoughts exactly. I'm doing some of the panels on my Aeon but had to leave the floor due to my big feet needing very bit of space possible.

One tip - make sure that the foam is of the closed cell variety so it doesn't absorb moisture and promote rust.

I reckon this 'double skinning' will keep road & engine noise down to a minimum and give a little more rigidity too.





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 20/3/05 at 09:06 AM Reply With Quote
Am I missing something here? Part of driving a Seven is to do with the noise it makes.........particulary when macspeedy leaves my place at ten oclock in the night. (neighbours )
I can hear the seven for about a mile and a half away. The wind in the hair The exposed driver /passenger cockpit. As well as the every ripple in the road feel on your ~~~/ f$$$y is all part of it....

If you want a quiet car buy a lexus limo.

Think we are getting soft ........what with windscreens and hardtops next it will be heated seats........ And bumpers/$fenders$

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RazMan

posted on 20/3/05 at 09:19 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
I can hear the seven for about a mile and a half away.


But I bet his ears don't bleed when he's driving it Plus, it's nice to be able to hear the missus saying 'FASTER'





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Hellfire

posted on 20/3/05 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
Personally, I don't think it would be very effective in a seven. Can't say I've ever noticed much road noise above the sound of the engine and/or the wind in your ears and the passenger screaming






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Peteff

posted on 20/3/05 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
And which ashtray do you think I should use, and is one cupholder in the middle enough in a 2 seater car?
Plus, it's nice to be able to hear the missus saying 'FASTER' Keep it clean there, this is a decent section here, take your inuendo to the bottom of the list. It's more of a weight consideration than anything I think. My idea is if you don't need it don't fit it. You'd probably gain more from the sticky back anti-vibe pads used on floor panels in cars





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RoadkillUK

posted on 20/3/05 at 11:54 AM Reply With Quote
Strange you should mention heated seats. I make my seats from an old Volvo interior and if you look at the left hand side of the photo there's a multiplug, I have left the heating element in there (although not connected)





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the JoKeR

posted on 20/3/05 at 12:51 PM Reply With Quote
It would be closed cell. It's actually designed for residential use as home insulation. I've also checked to make sure it isn't flamable and am happy with the results.

I understand the feelings of those of you who like the noise - I mean "experience" - of driving a louder car but I'm looking for a cross between racer and civilized. I like a neat and clean interior, and want to hear the roar of the engine, not the rattle and vibration of the floor. I'm considering dual sheeting on the sides as well for the same reason. I think there will still be ample noise to make me deaf!

Now about those heated seats.....





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David Jenkins

posted on 20/3/05 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
All I can hear is the crackle from the exhaust and the wind roar... no windscreen!
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paulbeyer

posted on 20/3/05 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
Jeff,

I've just been looking at your tremorMUV web site. Nice looking truck.

If I was to modify my explorer I might just get away with it, what do you think...........................?





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the JoKeR

posted on 20/3/05 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks. You can build these vehicles on a number of different chassis'. Basically, if the donor vehicle has a standard frame and can handle modifications, it can be done. The original plan was to use a 130" wheel base pickup truck, but others are building bodies now for shorter wheel base trucks and even the newer (smaller) style trucks as well. One guy in Findland (I think he's in Findland, at least) is using an ex-military truck. A guy in Canada is using a Unimog. Most are using either a full size pickup or Chevy Suburban. It's all in how creative you want or need to be. The truck I'm building now is for a guy in California who wants to use it for rock crawling on off-road trails. He's got Unimog front axles for front and rear steering, 50" tall ex-military tires, and we're building it on a 1 Ton Dodge chassis with a Cummins turbo diesel. He wanted us to do a full aluminum body instead of the steel these are normally built from, so he can save weight on the trails. Honestly, the guy is nuts, but he sends me lots of money!!

I think building these trucks is what has gotten me interested again in building a Locost. It'll be nice building a vehicle that doesn't take up half my garage and weigh as much as a house!





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RazMan

posted on 20/3/05 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by the JoKeR
It'll be nice building a vehicle that doesn't take up half my garage and weigh as much as a house!


Only half? You must have a heeeooooge garage - my standard single garage is to say the least cramped ...... and as my project gets wider I seem to have developed a unique skill of moving sideways with stomach sucked in!





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the JoKeR

posted on 20/3/05 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
It's a 2.5 car garage, although I'm kicking myself for not making it into a 3 car garage when we had the house build. A 2 car garage is very common around here. I've added a heater to the garage to allow me to work in the winter. When it's 0 degrees F, it'll easily stay at a managable 55 F inside, or warmer if I really want to make it work. It's really a good workspace, and it's nice to be able to work comfortably at home where my wife and kids can bother me - a LOT! I don't have any better pictures to show the size than this one. I could fit two of these into the garage, although I'm not sure I'd be able to open the doors to get out! With one of them under construction, we've got room off to the sides, where I've got a 4x8 work bench, an Oldsmobile 350ci V8, a GM V6, storage, etc. The bodies on these trucks are 83.5" wide, although they're not very long so I can still squeeze around it with the garage door closed. As dumb as this sounds, I've got no garage space! I'm a complete do-it-yourself type of person, so it's packed with more stuff I'll never use than even I can believe. I really hate paying somebody to do something I can do myself. As always, it's a good excuse to buy more tools! In the next few days, I'll be adding a 48" pan brake as well. Glad my wife doesn't mind parking outside in the winter! Once I start on the Locost, I'll be able to work AND park inside!








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wilkingj

posted on 20/3/05 at 10:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Am I missing something here?
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The wind in the hair The exposed driver /passenger cockpit.

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I quite agree, I just love feeling the wind in my hair.... Pzzzzztttt... Paaarrp.... Phwhop.
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RazMan

posted on 20/3/05 at 11:08 PM Reply With Quote
......... the bugs in your teeth .....





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Andybarbet

posted on 21/3/05 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
Wow !! I want one :-)

More to the point, my five year old boy says we Neeeeed One !!

I could fit my Velocity in the back and would be great for camping at the shows in............

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