Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 08:40 AM |
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Quick rack
Ordering a new wheel today and I want to couple this purchase with a quick rack.
Pretty sure my MK Indy has a normal sierra rack and column on it. I want to have more direct feel to my driving so I dont have to go hand over hand a
lot.
Can anyone give me any links to the exact product i need please? would like to order today.
I also dont want to reduce the length of the steering column, pretty sure these are not included in the kits though.
Bit of a novice, but willing to get my hands dirty etc.
Any tips, guides, points would be fab
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mackei23b
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 09:14 AM |
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Give MK a call, they will be able to supply one. (think it's 2.8 turns)
Cheers
Ian
[Edited on 31/7/08 by mackei23b]
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 09:16 AM |
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Do you want to order from Rally Design. It will be just a case of unbolt the exisiting and bolt up the new.
To check yours, how many turns lock to lock do you have at the moment?
I will look for a rally design link for you.
Steve
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Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 09:25 AM |
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Lock to lock I would say is coming up to three turns. It just turns and turns and turns, but it does get a huge amount of lock on and the turning
circle is like a London Taxi.
A link to the exact product I need would be great. Ordering a 290 wheel today too!
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 09:31 AM |
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As above really, MK do one at about £105 according to website. The rally design ones are rack kits so are more involved. You would not have to touch
your column or anything else, just unbolt and replace.
Steve
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Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 09:39 AM |
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whatthe difference between the two kits then?
why does the rally design one require more work? would they come with any type of instructions at all?
really want to order today
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 10:14 AM |
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The Kit means that you would have to first of all take off the steering rack. This is normally done by disconnecting the pinch bolt that connects it
to the column, undo the two track rod ends connecting it to the hubs then there are two bolts holding the rack to the chassis.
On the rally design kit you would then have to dismantle the rack and replace the internal gubbins with the new parts. Not difficult but just more
involved.
The full rack from MK would be a straight swap so an hours job.
Steve
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 11:14 AM |
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Thinking about this further, you will definately be better with the MK option as this will be shortened already to suit the car.
Steve
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worX
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 11:14 AM |
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I'm not sure that is correct.
The QR Internal rack kit from RalDes would come in the length to fit a standard sierra rack and therefore would need to be shortened to fit the
existing shorter rack fitted to the car. It would also need to be drilled and tapped on the end that you cut off shorter.
I'm not 100% on this esp with what Howler was saying, but I am pretty damn sure...
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Howlor
The Kit means that you would have to first of all take off the steering rack. This is normally done by disconnecting the pinch bolt that connects it
to the column, undo the two track rod ends connecting it to the hubs then there are two bolts holding the rack to the chassis.
On the rally design kit you would then have to dismantle the rack and replace the internal gubbins with the new parts. Not difficult but just more
involved.
The full rack from MK would be a straight swap so an hours job.
Steve
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Kev99
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 11:15 AM |
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Also The Rack In A MK Is Modified Shortend
So If You Got One From Rally Design It Would Still Need Modifying
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Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 11:39 AM |
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so would the best thing to do be go to MK?
would the MK need no modifying then?
Hmm, things are never straight forward are they lol
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 11:58 AM |
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Yep MK would be the safe bet. If they have one in stock you'll probably have it for Saturday.
Steve
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worX
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 12:42 PM |
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But MK only do a 2.8 ratio quickrack, and although this is great for some people, others prefer a 2.4 ratio QR...
I bought mine from MNR.
Steve
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Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 12:59 PM |
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stupid question alert - does that mean 2.8 turns lock to lock?
would it still be mor edirect than what i currently have?
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 02:08 PM |
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You mentioned that yours is just under 3 turns so I would suggest it is 2.8. I am sure that mine from MNR was 2.4 or even 2.2 so that would suit you
better although the lower you go the twitchier it becomes and straight lining is like watching Dukes of Hazzard driving with constant wheel
movements!
Steve
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worX
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 02:24 PM |
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Check your turns again, I'd suspect that they were closer to four from full left to full right or vice versa.
And yes, 2.8 means No. of turns from full lock to the opposite side. As does 2.4 etc
Steve
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Kriss
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 02:28 PM |
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Cheers Steve, you have been brilliant so far, and so have the others - thanks.
Sorry for all the spoon feeding I need.
I think you are right steve though, the number of turns is just silly right now. Will check when I am in and call MK after I have fitted my new wheel.
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worX
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| posted on 31/7/08 at 03:35 PM |
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No problem, it's what the forum is for!
You will find that a 2.4 turn loct-to-lock ratio rack and a very small wheel makes for a slightly twitchy ride on the road.
You need to have your car setup (or do it yourself - it's fairly easy to get the base settings correct) and if you come to be ready for track
days then it's worth getting it setup properly.
These adjustments will make it go from a twitchy car to something that is just nimble and flickable but still feel relatively planted on the road.
Some people say that the 2.4 is too twitchy which is why I said that MK does a 2.8 one.
I personally thought the 2.4 was spot on (with 285mm wheel), but then I spent quite some time setting my car up so that it handled pretty well in the
end.
Steve
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