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The T42 turbo trike design.
Micke Fredriksson - 25/11/04 at 07:31 PM

Hi! This is my first post at this fine forum, and I hope youīll understand my poor English!!

If you are interested in another homemade tricycle - Hereīs my "T42 turbo"!!
Itīs a trike based on a suzuki GSX-R 1000 -01 motorcycle that I have built a turbokit to.
The engine power is 280hp, and it weighs 400kg (360kg whithout body).. = 700hp/tone!!


Specifications:
Type of vehicle: Treewheeled motorcycle with body.
Engine: Suzuki GSX-R 1000 -01 TURBO.
Dimentions:
Total length: 410cm
Total width: 210cm
Wheelbase: 310cm
Hight: 105cm
Engine power: 280bhp, ~190nm.
Suspension:
Front: Öhlins shockabsorbers, Pushrod. RC: at 100mm. = 25% antiroll.
Rear: Rebuilt Suzuki absorber.
Turnradius: 13,7m
Steering: 1,9 turns (side-side)
Maximal lateral acc: 1,55G (before tipping over).
Passengers: 2
Performance: 25km/h - 200km/h= 9sek.(driver + passenger and wheelspin to 180km/h )
Topspeed: 300km/h.
Seats: TILLETT racing T250 seats.
Airodynamics: AirForce racing rear wing- Gives 186kg DF (down force) at 300km/h.



Itīs VERY WIDE!!!



This is the frontbrake calippers- HISPEC : Ultralihgt 4 cortina lug. Only 900gram each!!






A couple of friends trying to get a feel how it would be to drive this "monster" .






This is the fueltank made in aluminium- Rather komplicated shape.



This is the 2:nd fueltank (under construktion) with the 2:nd fuelpump (suzuki orginal).






This is the aluminium airintake (plenum) with suzuki funnels inside.




Oilsump welded to privent oilstarvation when cornering.







The Airintake and the 2:nd fueltank in place. Note the upper fuelrail wired to the (MegaSquirt) supplimentary injektion system- add fuel at turbo boost.




Here you can see the (IC) intercooler..




Oilcooler, right behind the passengers head- hot????



Wireing and fuel pipes.



The main fuelpump and filter.



Brakecalipper mounted om the custombuilt Ford scorpio 2,9 uppright and 280mm rotors.. No paint so far.



This is the PushRod front suspention. With very firm rebound, this öhlins shockabsorbers sutes this trike perfektly.
The wishbones geomety makes 25% antiroll, which means that I ride without a antirollbar, this trike doesnīt roll at all!!




The exhaust system made by polished stainless steel, with Lambda sond.
Itīs a BOMZ racing silencer- JAPAN style Very nice sound!! Bling bling..











This is my bodyscetch.. Hope you likes it..




This is my fuelsystem, It works very well

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


scoobyis2cool - 25/11/04 at 07:56 PM

Hey, welcome to the forum!

That looks like an awesome piece of kit you've got there, looks like you're well into the build as well, very impressive! Looking at your avatar it looks as though you've taken it for a spin, got any videos to tempt us with? Would love to see 700bhp/ton in action!

Good luck with the rest of the build...

Pete

Edit: Ooh, hold on, just found the link to your video, if I can get it to load...

[Edited on 25/11/04 by scoobyis2cool]


Micke Fredriksson - 25/11/04 at 08:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
Hey, welcome to the forum!

That looks like an awesome piece of kit you've got there, looks like you're well into the build as well, very impressive! Looking at your avatar it looks as though you've taken it for a spin, got any videos to tempt us with? Would love to see 700bhp/ton in action!

Good luck with the rest of the build...

Pete

Edit: Ooh, hold on, just found the link to your video, if I can get it to load...

[Edited on 25/11/04 by scoobyis2cool]




Thanks!! I can post some building pics. of the body too..
If someone else missed the film!!


Movie-Test ride "T42 turbo" http://media.savarturbo.se/micke_fredriksson/the_trikeride_20041110.avi


SeaBass - 25/11/04 at 08:40 PM

Very nice build Micke. Are you doing the aluminium welding yourself?? If so top job. Did you build a seven as well beforehand??

Cheers


Micke Fredriksson - 25/11/04 at 09:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Very nice build Micke. Are you doing the aluminium welding yourself?? If so top job. Did you build a seven as well beforehand??

Cheers



Thanks!!! The seven in the top picture is a friends.. I have helpt building another seven with a BMW M10 turbo engine (350hp)..
BUT, I have built several other projekt (like a Lancia A112 Abarth with a yamaha R1 engine... A Volvo PV 544 with a B234 16v twin-turbo engine "400hp"..... aso.)

Sadly Iīm not the alu whelder. Because I havenīt got a TIG. I made all the alu construktion, and then I taped it together so "Ludde" could weld it... Heīs Very good as you can see!!!

Your seven looks very nice too!!
Anything else you wondering about???

[Edited on 25/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


Cita - 25/11/04 at 09:51 PM

That's a very nice piece of workmanship!!!
Well done Micke!!
Love to see some pic's of the bodywork(couldn't get the video link working)


scoobyis2cool - 25/11/04 at 10:10 PM

The video link wouldn't work for me either, so I right-clicked it and said Save Target As, and saved it to my hard drive

Pete


JoelP - 25/11/04 at 10:27 PM

thats awesome man. absolutely cracking.


SeaBass - 25/11/04 at 11:17 PM

I've now watched the video. What a machine. Pretty scary stuff with all that power and so
little weight. That rear wheel seems to have a mind of its own. Have you had the thing around a track yet to work out how to lay the power down on the road??

Cheers

[Edited on 25/11/04 by SeaBass]


Micke Fredriksson - 26/11/04 at 09:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
I've now watched the video. What a machine. Pretty scary stuff with all that power and so
little weight.
That rear wheel seems to have a mind of its own. Have you had the thing around a track yet to work out how to lay the power down on the road??

Cheers

[Edited on 25/11/04 by SeaBass]


The rear wheel "was" a MC-tyre. I tryed to make all sorts of turns, just to sens how it feels when cornering.
But the MC-tyre was to soft in the "side walls", so I got a nasty "snakey" slidy feel in speeds over 80km/h, even though I was not slyding .
And then theres the friktion problem !!! I will mount a 17" car tyre in the rear till the next summer .

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


ceebmoj - 26/11/04 at 09:17 AM

looks very cool,

have you started on youer body work yet ? if so do you have any pics of that?

downloding the vidio now


Micke Fredriksson - 26/11/04 at 09:50 AM

Hereīs some pics. on my body work ..
The pics. are taken from 1,5mounth till for 3weeks ago..

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Here Iīm welding om a TEMPORARY steel plate- so I have a smoth side panel I can make a mould of.

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Am I building a BOAT?????

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Itīs starts to form a nose

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Air scoop.

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Scoop outlet..

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Exhaust..

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 26/11/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


ned - 26/11/04 at 09:56 AM

we like


Micke Fredriksson - 26/11/04 at 10:27 AM

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JoelP - 26/11/04 at 06:32 PM

that last picture looks like the spaceship in the hanger, in the old film 'navigator'!


Micke Fredriksson - 26/11/04 at 06:40 PM

yea, Without the front wheels, I get a airoplane feeling when I stand besides the nose.. I thing itīs gonna be very airodynamic.. What do you think?


MikeRJ - 26/11/04 at 10:43 PM

Wow, simply stunning! You must have put a serious amount of time (and money!) into that, and it shows.


Micke Fredriksson - 26/11/04 at 11:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Wow, simply stunning! You must have put a serious amount of time (and money!) into that, and it shows.


Ohh, thank you!!
Well, I have built this projekt in 1year and 3month so far.. it took 10month till testdrive (video at my signatur)..
Yea, money..... .. I sold my earlier (lancia A112 abarth R1) motorbike engined projekt, so I could afford the main parts to this projekt.

Lancia abarth R1:

Lancia R1 at midlanda motorpark
Lancia R1 at midlanda motorpark


JoelP - 27/11/04 at 12:08 AM

just got the video working... that looks fun.


chrisf - 2/12/04 at 02:29 AM

I've wasted a workday thinking about this three wheeler. Looks increadibly fun. But how do these things handle on the road? This trike does 1.5 Gs! Does it tip over when the limit is exceded or does the rear wheel slide like a regular car?

This progect really sparked the curiosity.

--Chris


Micke Fredriksson - 2/12/04 at 11:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by chrisf
I've wasted a workday thinking about this three wheeler. Looks increadibly fun. But how do these things handle on the road? This trike does 1.5 Gs! Does it tip over when the limit is exceded or does the rear wheel slide like a regular car?

This progect really sparked the curiosity.

--Chris


Hi! Yes, in teory this design could handle 1,5Gs. Under my testrun I hadnīt changed to a car tyre in rear, so I couldnīt stress it in the corners (I got a snakelike feel in the rear- without sliding bacause the biketyre have very soft sides.. ) And when the limit is exeded the threewheeler would start to tip over. BUT, to reach so high G force I must have racingslicks. The friktion of a regular tyre is to small. And there is another thing you must add to the cornering process=
All the weight transfer is on the right frontwheel (left turn)- who lowering the friktion (hope you understand). The rear wheel doesnīt take any weight transfer when cornering- just the G force lateral. So if I should have 50/50 weight in the trike, it would get a larger rate of slipangle to the front right tyre (left turn)- with makes the frontend to slide earlier (understeer), BUT I have two front wheels that helps to add friktion. In theory a trike with 50/50 in weight, is rather neutral in cornering. But if we makes it "rear heavy", it would oversteer.
Mine T42 is "front heavy" 60/40 f/r. So if the theory is real- it would understeer if I stress it real hard - exacly as I want. Donīt want a oversteering trike in 250km/h .
You can allways MAKE it oversteer- with 280hp under your right foot...

Itīs rather fun to answer questions!! MORE!!

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 2/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


mangogrooveworkshop - 2/12/04 at 01:37 PM

Speechless Delboy hyper drive!

I like the chainsaw shapeing what!! noise and styreen everywhere!


macspeedy - 2/12/04 at 06:10 PM

1 word wow!


Micke Fredriksson - 2/12/04 at 08:56 PM

Thanks for all the kind words!!
I have sprayed the body plug with putty (filler) so I get a smother surface to work with. I use a Wall putty with water base. Very easy to form!! Thereīs only one problem- I have to wait several hours before I can sand it.... If I use a 2K putty, the mold base plastic will melt... ..


spunky - 4/12/04 at 08:22 AM

Thats a fantastic machine Micke.
And exactly the sort of thing I've been tossing around in my head (and paper)
I have the remains of my GSX600 lying about and wanted to use it in a trike setup. So I'm now inspired to crack on with the project.
A scaled down and slightly less brutal version of your trike would be great.

Top job mate.

John


scotlad - 4/12/04 at 09:05 AM

Stunning!


Micke Fredriksson - 4/12/04 at 10:42 PM

Thanks!!! I have continued spraying putty and sanding.. The rear body have a slite different shape (almost like a giggantic bike tank ). Theas pics are taken today. The black stickytape is just a test for a line between carbofiber and paint... I donīt know realy- but itīs just a idea








[Edited on 4/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


Mave - 5/12/04 at 10:15 AM

Please keep those updates coming! I like the way you make your bodywork! Seems easy and fast!


Micke Fredriksson - 5/12/04 at 05:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mave
Please keep those updates coming! I like the way you make your bodywork! Seems easy and fast!



Easy and FAST!!!
EEHHHH........ Well, I donīt know I agee.. But if you want- I will update as often as possible... The only thing is- Itīs hard to get it symetric.


Micke Fredriksson - 6/12/04 at 11:16 AM

Hi! Here is another server with my trike movie..
http://www.volvo.er-mandig.com/film/the_trikeride_20041110.avi
Hope it works...

[Edited on 6/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 6/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


splitrivet - 6/12/04 at 01:37 PM

That looks well mental,I have a GSXR1100 engine just waiting for the next project and was thinking on similar lines.
if I ever get the low cost finished and dont tell the missus that is.

Well done nice job.
Cheers,
Bob


Micke Fredriksson - 6/12/04 at 06:35 PM

Thanks!! A turbod GSX-R1100 in a trike like mine- IS quicker then sound . Perhaps I will sell some kits with frame, front suspension/steering and body, when itīs done.. Are you interessed??

[Edited on 6/12/04 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 18/12/04 at 07:52 PM

Hello!! Today Iīve bought some small wheels that I welded to the frame- so I can push it around the garage. I have sanded every day too, so thereīs just some minor adjustments left to the air scoops- to get them symetric to eathother. Itīs not easy can I tell!


Left front scoop exhaust
Left front scoop exhaust


Left side low scoop
Left side low scoop


right front low
right front low


Front
Front


Right side front
Right side front


Left side close
Left side close


Right side
Right side


Left side
Left side


Left side
Left side


Left front close
Left front close


Left front
Left front


left back
left back


Cita - 18/12/04 at 10:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
to.... eathother. Itīs not easy can I tell!


Food not hot enough in Sweden?




P.S. ( my English is much worse than yours)


sgraber - 19/12/04 at 03:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
The only thing is- Itīs hard to get it symetric.


Now THOSE words really are true!


BTW- You are making great progress! Very quick. Are you going to use the Durabuild for primer?

[Edited on 12/19/04 by sgraber]


Micke Fredriksson - 19/12/04 at 08:44 PM

Durabuild for primer... I donīt know really yet. I will try to get in contact with some composite companies to get a Swedish price..
If I not chose the durabuild primer, I will probably use a Waxed Gelcoat "topcoat". The topcoat must be wetsanded and polished to get the shine I need to make the mold..


locoboy - 20/12/04 at 02:18 PM

That is officially mental

Dont fancy a country lane blast in it though with it being that W I D E at the front, you would have a wheel in each verge!


Lawnmower - 1/1/05 at 11:34 PM

Nice!


Micke Fredriksson - 2/1/05 at 11:46 AM

Tanks!! Now I have made my own homepage.

http://www.mride.se

Take a look!

[Edited on 2/1/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 4/1/05 at 08:01 PM

HELLO!!!
The bodywork is almost "done", so I have started to design a fender plugg..
Thersīs more pics on my site.


akumabito - 11/1/05 at 09:54 PM

You, sir, are a god....

Take it in production, NOW, The People demand it! (any chance of a locost version? lol)


Micke Fredriksson - 16/1/05 at 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
You, sir, are a god....

Take it in production, NOW, The People demand it! (any chance of a locost version? lol)


Do you think there is anyone who will buy a locost version (body, chassi, frontsuspension) of my T42?

[Edited on 16/1/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Rorty - 17/1/05 at 03:40 AM

It would be a nice tool for using around some of the English country lanes, but I think it would be too wide for most of them.


akumabito - 17/1/05 at 05:32 PM

Depends on the price I guess... there's sortof a lot of trikes out there, even a bunch with superbike engines... beat their price, and I think you've got a good chance of selling at least a few... seperate chassis and body packages would help too I think, so people can spread out the costs a bit..

[Edited on 17/1/05 by akumabito]


Micke Fredriksson - 12/2/05 at 09:51 PM

The bodyplugg is now done- The next step is to polish and wax the surface.
See more pics on http://www.mride.se



Micke Fredriksson - 16/2/05 at 10:44 PM

I have scatched a little bit on the paintjob.
I have to have this done before I can make the final body shell- So I can put the carbonfiber in the right place.. I will only have carbonfiber on the spots there it will be visible. Because I cant afford the whole body in carbon.

What do you think?



soggy - 17/2/05 at 04:57 PM

hi awesome trike cant wait to see it finished.just followed a link to your last project the abarth am i right in thinking the engine is chain powering the diff by putting a sprocket on the nose of the diff? if not how?i was trying the same idea in a mini and that was what i came up with it would be nice to know that it worked in practice.


krlthms - 17/2/05 at 05:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
I have scatched a little bit on the paintjob.
I have to have this done before I can make the final body shell- So I can put the carbonfiber in the right place.. I will only have carbonfiber on the spots there it will be visible. Because I cant afford the whole body in carbon.

What do you think?





Micke,
I think you should get some Swede patron of the arts to sponsor your project. It looks very "kinetic"; not only functional but also very artistic. The picture reminds me of a killer whale with its calf swimming beside it!
I may not be able to afford the money or the balls to own or drive something like your machine, respectively, but I sure would like to have a model (say 1/8) of it. Have you thought of selling models as a way to raise some extra cash for the project? In fact, this would be a good idea for anyone making a "special" machine; maybe we can all become "collectors" of each others inventions!
Med Venlig Hilsen (pls excuse the spelling)
KT


Micke Fredriksson - 17/2/05 at 06:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by soggy
hi awesome trike cant wait to see it finished.just followed a link to your last project the abarth am i right in thinking the engine is chain powering the diff by putting a sprocket on the nose of the diff? if not how?i was trying the same idea in a mini and that was what i came up with it would be nice to know that it worked in practice.



No, it woulnīt work because the pinjon (the nose on the diff) canīt handle the pulling force from the chain alone. You must make a think like mine sprocket axel 190mm long. The round side is against the diff.


Micke Fredriksson - 17/2/05 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by krlthms
quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
I have scatched a little bit on the paintjob.
I have to have this done before I can make the final body shell- So I can put the carbonfiber in the right place.. I will only have carbonfiber on the spots there it will be visible. Because I cant afford the whole body in carbon.

What do you think?





Micke,
I think you should get some Swede patron of the arts to sponsor your project. It looks very "kinetic"; not only functional but also very artistic. The picture reminds me of a killer whale with its calf swimming beside it!
I may not be able to afford the money or the balls to own or drive something like your machine, respectively, but I sure would like to have a model (say 1/8) of it. Have you thought of selling models as a way to raise some extra cash for the project? In fact, this would be a good idea for anyone making a "special" machine; maybe we can all become "collectors" of each others inventions!
Med Venlig Hilsen (pls excuse the spelling)
KT


Thanks KT!! hehe- Killer whale- Well yea Itīs possible.. I donīt know what you meen with " Swede patron of the arts".. But I will try to get a sponsor to the paintjob. I think the fender will be better with another stripe then this ..


soggy - 17/2/05 at 08:43 PM

hi.yes i was aware of the diff strength of the diff and got as far as choosing the bearing needed,it would have looked something like yours except with a blade engine.i think its a good contept as you can alter the gearing quite easy by changing the sprocket.Its an alternative to having a mid mounted car engine as the package is more compact than conventional chain driven layouts.
In the end the mini shell went to the big scrap yard in the sky and in building a tiger avon(dont ask)cheers


Micke Fredriksson - 19/2/05 at 01:26 AM

New progress= new pictures!!
mride.se



kb58 - 25/2/05 at 09:04 PM

Fantasic work!

I'm concerned by two things. It appears your feet extend forward of the front axle centerline, which isn't good in the case of an accident. Also, it looks like in even a minor collision, there's a good chance the front fuel tank can get punctured and dump gas straight into the driver compartment. Please tell me that can't happen.


Micke Fredriksson - 27/2/05 at 11:30 PM

Thanks for your consern!!
Well it can happen if you are VERY unlucky.
The feet in the front is perhaps not in the best place if you hit a brickwall in 100mph .
Well there are meny "kitcars" who I donīt want to crach in:
Like a side collition in a super seven...
Another one is a GT40 repl. It have one fueltank on each side just under the doors. A side collition would be like a big fireball I guess. A kitcar have "often" not enought safty features to stand unharmed in a big crash- They are built to be light.. I guess your "mini" with a full rollcage have much better safte then 90% of all the builders- which is great.


I have made some progress in the trike build!!
More pics on my website!




CARBON FIBER.




More color testing! This one is really good I think! ALL THE BLACK IS CARBON FIBER!!
What do you think?? Good or bad?


( Dont mind the misspelling (vehicle) in the text!! )



[Edited on 27/2/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 2/3/05 at 10:00 PM


This is Kjell at Swedish industri Composite. Heīs gonna be my support "mentor" during this process!
He is really funny as you can see!!


The fender mould starts to take shape!

[Edited on 4/3/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 11/3/05 at 02:32 PM

Hi!! The moulds is now done and ready to be polished/waxed. I have taken everything home to do this.
It isīnt everything left!!



[Edited on 11/3/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 12/3/05 at 09:04 PM



Hello!! What do you think of this color kombination?
The final bodyshell is coming on, so I have to know where Iīm going to put the carbofiber in the mould..


Micke Fredriksson - 9/4/05 at 10:07 AM


Spyderman - 9/4/05 at 02:42 PM

I like the black/carbon with the white nose and red at rear option best so far.
Not too bothered about carbon bodywork, but it does look nice inside.

Terry


sgraber - 9/4/05 at 02:48 PM

The fiberglass appears to be of top quality (just from looking at the reflections for ripples and waves. NICELY DONE!

Graber


Mave - 16/4/05 at 09:02 AM

It really looks great. I wish my parts and mould would look that good.

But anyway; keep updating. It's very inspiring.


JoelP - 16/4/05 at 09:34 AM

yep, awesome look - i especially like the front wheel pods/wings.


Micke Fredriksson - 17/4/05 at 09:14 AM

Thanks everyone!! The fiberglass panels is really fine.
BUT- The carbonfiber moulding didnīt go as planed.



The carbonfiber quallity is really good- far better then I had hoped.
BUT it cracked when we tryed to get it out of the mould... - The carbon was "nailed" to the mould....
Now I have "re"sanded the moulds, polished and waxed, so Iīm ready to make another try.

This is the cracked nose.. pitty! Hopefully the next one will be MUCK better and donīt stick on to the mould


JoelP - 17/4/05 at 10:44 AM

hard luck there mate, at least you didnt bust the mould too!


Micke Fredriksson - 18/4/05 at 08:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
hard luck there mate, at least you didnt bust the mould too!


Well.... The mould got busted too.. But I have fixed it now with alot of sanding, polishing and gelcoat filler. So thereīs no dissaster.. Just hopeing the next try will go better- started today with one of the front fenders/wings and painted transparant polyester in the nos mould. Will mould the carbon tomorrow...
Chears/ Mike


Mave - 19/4/05 at 08:15 PM

Micke,

do you let the gelcoat dry completely? Or just let it get tacky?

Thanks,
Marcel


Micke Fredriksson - 20/4/05 at 06:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mave
Micke,

do you let the gelcoat dry completely? Or just let it get tacky?

Thanks,
Marcel


Hi!! I let the gelcoat dry completely so the fibers wonīt be visible on the surface. If you let the getcoat "dry" partly (not completely) and lay more laminate on to it- the gelcoat will "rise" like a small wave... If you understand. ?

[Edited on 20/4/05 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 20/4/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 25/4/05 at 08:36 PM

Some updating!!
Body testmounting.
More pics on www.mride.se .







Micke Fredriksson - 27/5/05 at 10:00 PM

I have done some progress in the building.. I have done more then it shows at the the pictures.. The whole body is mounted (not painted) only the fenders left. The reverse gear is done. And more.....







REVERSE GEAR (Mazda 323f windsheld wiper engine)




SKROCKET!


Micke Fredriksson - 24/6/05 at 07:04 PM






Micke Fredriksson - 10/7/05 at 09:26 PM


Noice testing! Have to do this noicetest to get it road legal. 82db!!!


Carbonfiber interior starts to take shape.





[Edited on 10/7/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


chrisf - 10/7/05 at 09:55 PM

Micke:

Did you make the flat CFRP panels?? If so, how did you do it?

--Thanks, Chris


sgraber - 11/7/05 at 03:47 AM

What wonderful attention to detail. very clean. One question (comment)... The fuel cell... Up next to your legs? And in a location where it could be poked by an a-arm if you were in an accident? Or am I missing something...

Graber


Micke Fredriksson - 11/7/05 at 07:54 AM

Micke:

Did you make the flat CFRP panels?? If so, how did you do it?

--Thanks, Chris

Hi!! The flat cfrf is laminated in the same way as the rest of the carbon bodywork on the trike. = Transperent polyester plastic and 204gr/m2 twill carbonfiber fabric. Used a flat plywood "darkbrown oilplywood" as a mould..


Micke Fredriksson - 11/7/05 at 07:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
What wonderful attention to detail. very clean. One question (comment)... The fuel cell... Up next to your legs? And in a location where it could be poked by an a-arm if you were in an accident? Or am I missing something...

Graber


Hi!! Thanks!
Youīr absolutly right. Not the best place to have a fueltank, but I had no choice..


Peteff - 11/7/05 at 09:40 AM

The photographer could have picked a better spot, or is the shed on the back something to do with the noise level reduction. Rescued attachment Mickes shed.JPG
Rescued attachment Mickes shed.JPG


Winston Todge - 11/7/05 at 11:53 AM

Just clicked on the 'trike' area of locostbuilders to find this thread!

Absolutely awesome piece of design and engineering Micke...

I'm interested as to why you chose to build a trike after your other builds? What was the inspiration? Any benefits over a four wheeler? Or just because you can!!?

Later, Chris.


Cita - 11/7/05 at 12:23 PM

I think the fuel cell is located on the passengers side Steve and not next to the driver,so the chance of a "A" arm going through it is rather small I think.
In such a minimalistic car regarding space,it's very difficult to get all the parts tucked away in a safe and functional position.

Cheers Cita


Micke Fredriksson - 11/7/05 at 08:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
The photographer could have picked a better spot, or is the shed on the back something to do with the noise level reduction.


OHH NO!!! You cought me!!
Yes I bought a 20m3 shed and mounted it on the trike to get a sound proof wood wall around the silencer.. I thought noone would notice it

Funny, I havent noticed the shed before


Micke Fredriksson - 11/7/05 at 09:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Winston Todge
Just clicked on the 'trike' area of locostbuilders to find this thread!

Absolutely awesome piece of design and engineering Micke...

I'm interested as to why you chose to build a trike after your other builds? What was the inspiration? Any benefits over a four wheeler? Or just because you can!!?

Later, Chris.



hehe!! Thanks Chris! Why a three wheeler? I dont really know.. The "backwards" threewheeler is NOT what you see on the swedish roads every day, can I tell. This makes it more fun to build a vehicle that no one else have. The bike rear end is very light compered to make it a 4 wheeler. Then is the geomety theory around a trike much different compered to a car. It was a big challenge to get the wheight "CG" in the right place to get it corner as fast as possible without tipping over "1,55G:s".. The vehicle ballance is a nother interesting point.
And the final reson is: In Sweden you CAN have as much engine power as you want in a motorbike/ MC-trike..

I just love make things that noone else have and nothing is impossible = This is my motto!


Micke Fredriksson - 11/7/05 at 09:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cita
I think the fuel cell is located on the passengers side Steve and not next to the driver,so the chance of a "A" arm going through it is rather small I think.
In such a minimalistic car regarding space,it's very difficult to get all the parts tucked away in a safe and functional position.

Cheers Cita


Thanks! Exaktly. One thing that ment more then the "risk of injury during exident" where the weight distribution. More weight in the front= less risk of tipping over= "Another kind of safety".. I just hope that I doesnīt have to find out what the suspension parts will do during a crash.


RallyHarry - 12/7/05 at 01:34 AM

Wouldn't it be better to leave the original biketank in it's original location ?
I mean, with that kind of HP and with minimal contact patch on the rear wheel, chance are your going to hit something (hard) dead on ( no pun intended) rather than being rear-ended.

How are you planning to get all that power to the ground?, that rear spoiler isn't legal in Sweden is it ?

Love your ride and keep us updated.

Cheers


Micke Fredriksson - 11/8/05 at 07:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RallyHarry
Wouldn't it be better to leave the original biketank in it's original location ?
I mean, with that kind of HP and with minimal contact patch on the rear wheel, chance are your going to hit something (hard) dead on ( no pun intended) rather than being rear-ended.

How are you planning to get all that power to the ground?, that rear spoiler isn't legal in Sweden is it ?

Love your ride and keep us updated.

Cheers


Hi!! I have now changed rear tyre to a car tyre "205/45x17". After testing this tyre on the road, I can tell it provides much better grip then the bike tyre, but is still some grip problems in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear.. iīm satisfied with the acc (for now)!
Regarding the rear wing. This "wing" is actually a VERY aerodynamic turninglight holder. So, because of the swedish law, I must have a turninglight within 400mm from the widest line of the vehicle- even if the widest point is in the front. My T42 trike is very narrow in the rear, so I must have something pointing out on eath side. This makes it legal for me to have a wing on my trike (with turninglight on the endplates). Iīve mounted rubberexpanding nuts as wing mounts, so it will fall of during a accidential inpact.



Rear turninglight on the rear wing.



This is my 3/4 test before I get the T42 road legal.



This is Gustaf Ulander, a licensed SFRO man. Here he is checking out the fuel system.



Preparing for hes first testride.
This testday includes a check of all parts that is mounted to the vehicle, such brakes, fuel lines etc. and driving the vehicle to the limit. They will see how the vehicle performe on the road- IF IT`S SAFE. The drivingtest tests full brake (with a G-gauge), full acc, heavy cornering and a combination of all..





Back again... As you can see- Gustaf in VERY happy with the performance of the T42 trike.


And the final test- turning and braking WITH passenger. The T42 trike have passed even this test. The t42 braked 1.06 G:s with hard standard tyres!!! VERY GOOD!! Now only one test is remaining to get it roadlegal.


Spyderman - 12/8/05 at 12:05 PM

Congratulations Micke!

Your trike is looking fantastic.
I have been following your progress with great interest. Hopefully the final stages of becoming road legal will be as easy as impressing the safety inspector!

You have certainly done yourself proud with this beast and the only thing I can find criticism in is the shape of the mud guards.
I think it would look much sleeker with simpler basic guards on that hug the wheels. Those that you have on draw the attention away from the main vehicle, and looking as good as it does, you don't want to distract the eye away from it!
This is probably just a personal taste thing tho'!

Again, many congratulations!

Terry


Micke Fredriksson - 15/8/05 at 08:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Spyderman
Congratulations Micke!

Your trike is looking fantastic.
I have been following your progress with great interest. Hopefully the final stages of becoming road legal will be as easy as impressing the safety inspector!

You have certainly done yourself proud with this beast and the only thing I can find criticism in is the shape of the mud guards.
I think it would look much sleeker with simpler basic guards on that hug the wheels. Those that you have on draw the attention away from the main vehicle, and looking as good as it does, you don't want to distract the eye away from it!
This is probably just a personal taste thing tho'!

Again, many congratulations!

Terry



Thanks!! I understand the thoughts about the fenders
Eather you like them or you hate them- Thatīs the deal with radical design .

What do you think about this coloring?



Winston Todge - 15/8/05 at 09:39 PM

Looks absolutely fantastic Micke! Again, a close follower of this thread and have consistently been more than impressed by your design...

Well done and fingers crossed for the final stages!

Chris.

P.S. Whens the new video being released?

[Edited on 15-8-05 by Winston Todge]


sean951 - 23/8/05 at 07:50 PM

so your going with the superbike paint scheme i thought that one would look good, now that you did a photoshop of it i can really say it does look good, very aggressive. i wonder what it would look like if the wheels where entirely orange? or bright green? may be worth playing with in photoshop.
Sean


akumabito - 3/9/05 at 11:58 AM

This machine still amazes me.. excellent work, and great to see the beast on the road..

I guess it's just a matter of personal taste, but it does seem a little long to me.. I think the machine would look better proportioned if it were a single-seater.. like so:



Anyways, I'm gonna go re-read your site again and drool some more..


Rorty - 3/9/05 at 02:34 PM

Even as a "single seater" it still looks incredibly long.


akumabito - 3/9/05 at 04:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
Even as a "single seater" it still looks incredibly long.


True, but you can't keep the engine on your lap.. the only way to make it even shorter is by changing it to a 4-wheeler..


akumabito - 3/9/05 at 04:42 PM

Quick photoshop:



I know, got some messed up perspective and all, mehh..

Nahh, it looks cooler as a three wheeler..


Micke Fredriksson - 3/9/05 at 05:39 PM

Hello!!! Thanks for the photoshops!! Cool.

As you can see, This type of threewheelers will always look incredible long in some views. look here!






Here I have put out a "4:th" wheel. The T42 is 217cm wide, so the rear wheels
is standing out a bit..
Like a Formulacar!!





Look at the rear wheels.. Standing out pritty much too.



[Edited on 3/9/05 by Micke Fredriksson]


JoelP - 3/9/05 at 11:18 PM

the car looks cool micke


Micke Fredriksson - 5/9/05 at 09:11 AM

Hello!! When I made the last "test" a lokal newspaper made a article.
You perhaps doesnīt speek swedish but it looks like this! 2 pages.





Micke Fredriksson - 14/9/05 at 06:01 PM

Hereīs a short VIDEO from a lokal legal dragracing event here in Umeå (sweden).

The grip was VERY limited!! But it was rather fun anyway.

VIDEO:
http://www.mride.se/downloads/Blackrace_050910_Mride_T42.wmv



blackrace1
blackrace1



blackrace2
blackrace2



blackrace3
blackrace3


Peteff - 14/9/05 at 09:01 PM

Time to widen the swing arm to get more rubber in there Mikke.


Micke Fredriksson - 14/9/05 at 09:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Time to widen the swing arm to get more rubber in there Mikke.


Hehe!! Yea, Not a bad idea!!
It was worse grip then usual that time. In normal conditions the grip is much better..

I photoshoped a picture to a "more race like" T42.. Darth Vader...


Rorty - 14/9/05 at 10:54 PM

You're never going to get any real traction with a 45mm wide contact patch with the motorcycle rear tyre. When you upgrade to a proper wide car meat you'll see some proper performance.


Micke Fredriksson - 15/9/05 at 09:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
You're never going to get any real traction with a 45mm wide contact patch with the motorcycle rear tyre. When you upgrade to a proper wide car meat you'll see some proper performance.


I have a 205/45x17 car tyre now not a bike tyre.. Itīs just a ordinary road car tyre so it isnīt sticky like a Racing (yokohama A032R) tyre. It would be nice to try a "R-tyre"..


akumabito - 28/9/05 at 07:23 PM

...traction control maybe? Or launch control perhaps..

What was your best time on the track?

[Edited on 28/9/05 by akumabito]


Micke Fredriksson - 29/9/05 at 07:45 PM

Hello!! Well some kind of traction control would be nice! But the grip problem isnīt a big deal if the tarmac is fine. The time where so bad I rather not say it....
The topspeed: 137km/h (201m)
60 foot: 3.1sec
I will make much better next year!! I hope I will get some trackday time in it next year too. Itīs almoste to cold up here in sweden now to drive a open vehicle.




quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
...traction control maybe? Or launch control perhaps..

What was your best time on the track?

[Edited on 28/9/05 by akumabito]


akumabito - 30/9/05 at 10:59 AM

Racelogic sells aftermarket traction control... comes with launch control build in too... pretty nice, I guess it would make a lot of difference on your beast.. it's expensive though..

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control


Micke Fredriksson - 26/12/05 at 01:24 AM

This is a Video from a Trackday at Midlanda motorpark in the middle of Sweden. 2005-10-08 with my T42 turbo.
Turbo boost: 1.0bar = 300hp+

(save as)
FILM: Trackday Mride T42 Turbo


wacomuk - 30/12/05 at 12:40 AM

linky no worky


Micke Fredriksson - 30/12/05 at 06:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wacomuk
linky no worky


Hi!! Hmm. Yes I know. because there have been more then 2200 downloads in two days, my webhotel decided that Iīve passed the downlload limit on this file..
If you want to see the film, you can visit my site and download it from there. www.mride.se


Micke Fredriksson - 17/1/06 at 09:57 PM

A real hardtop on the T42 trike!! Just a photoshop picture but I like it VERY much, and perhaps I have to make one next vinter.





[Edited on 17/1/06 by Micke Fredriksson]


Micke Fredriksson - 18/3/06 at 11:10 AM

After the paintjob and striping I have started to mount it together.
More pictures: MRIDE.SE











[Edited on 18/3/06 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 18/3/06 by Micke Fredriksson]


sean951 - 19/3/06 at 05:54 PM

wow! that is stunning! it looks amazing Micke!


Micke Fredriksson - 20/3/06 at 09:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by sean951
wow! that is stunning! it looks amazing Micke!


Thanks man!!!!


soggy - 21/3/06 at 12:45 AM

hi micke i have followed your build from the start and it just gets better!
awesome.


chrisf - 21/3/06 at 01:20 AM

Hi Micke:

Did you primer/paint the inside of the bodywork first? I am almost ready to paint my locost but cannot figure out if I need to paint inside of the fiberglass.

Oh, the the bodywork came out very, very nice. Well done man!

--Chris


Micke Fredriksson - 22/3/06 at 03:48 PM

THANKS!!!!! Iīm glad you guys like it!!

I primed and painted the inside of some "not every" panel first. And after that I took the outside. less masking!
You doesnīt need to paint the inside of the fiberglass if you donīt want to. If the raw fiberglass is exposed to UV-light for a long time the polyester will change color and turn crisp and fragile... One layer of paint will privent that. But the question is how much sunlight will come in there? Probably it will take more then 15years before it happens.. But better safe then sorry.


akumabito - 24/3/06 at 11:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Micke Fredriksson
A real hardtop on the T42 trike!! Just a photoshop picture but I like it VERY much, and perhaps I have to make one next vinter.





[Edited on 17/1/06 by Micke Fredriksson]


Now THAT looks awesome!


Micke Fredriksson - 26/3/06 at 09:53 AM

THANKS !!!! To bad I canīt afford to build the carbonfibre hardtop right now... I think too that the T42 looks awsome with it!!

I have two new short video clips on my websight- You are all welcome to take a look!! www.mride.se


cita2 - 28/3/06 at 07:47 PM

You'dd better secure that roof very good!!!!
It's a bloody wing and the air trap near the top of the front shield will form a perfect leading edge!!

.........it looks VERY neat though


Micke Fredriksson - 29/3/06 at 08:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cita2
You'dd better secure that roof very good!!!!
It's a bloody wing and the air trap near the top of the front shield will form a perfect leading edge!!

.........it looks VERY neat though


Thanks!! Yes, you have a point there about the roof. But I donīt think that the lift on the roof section will be a problem. Aerodynamic lift is often generated by negativ pressure zones and turbulens.
If you have a large surface where the airstreem goes only one direction, and have nowhere else to go but over it. The lift effekt will be very powerful - like a airplane wing.
The T42 roof design is very narrow- only about 75cm. Most likely there will be a high pressure zone in the front of the window and upp till the highest point of the roof and goes over to a slightly low presure zone right over the passenger. And because of that the body continues after the roof shape, there will not be turbulens over the roof. The window shape will only push perhaps about 30% of the comming air over the roof and the rest out on the sides. The low pressure zone over the passenger will suck in some of the side streems and fill it out, which will reduce the lift over the passenger.
The front airvent scoop on the roof will "slice" the air (like cheese). This "slicing" will not generate lift, but it will add air pressure inside the cabin, and high cabin pressure will pop the roof off if the pressure is to high. I will mount a air lock so I can close the scoop. But if you build a air intake you MUST build a air outlet, to prevent this high cabin pressure and make a good ventilation.
Iīm perhaps not a trained aerodynamic engineer, but I have been in contact with one and disscussed the roof design. And I think the roof will make the T42 trike faster in speeds over 200km/h - cause of less drag of cockpit turbulens as a open vehicle..

I hope you understand me and my swenglish

[Edited on 29/3/06 by Micke Fredriksson]

[Edited on 29/3/06 by Micke Fredriksson]


cita2 - 30/3/06 at 07:15 PM

Hi Micke,

I'm by no means a aerodynamic specialist either but from the moment air is moved over a surface the pressure will drop,or explained in another way,will create lift.
I'm not worried by the air that will be deflected by the windshield but the undeflected air that will meet the front,or leading edge,of the curved roof.
75 cm doesn't seem much but a wing section of 75 cm wide and of chord of over 1 meter (lenght of roof) will produce a significant amount of lift at speeds of 200 kmph!!!!
Your airscoop will have to be of excelent design to transport all the air that is gathered at the intake at high speeds or it will form a buffer and this buffer will be compressed into a near perfect leading edge.
Most lift is created in the first quarter of the foil and if it's true that the flowing airstream will follow the roof almost till the end of the roof,it will only create more lift.
I hope I'm completely wrong on this (have been before) and that the roof stays on!!

Dont,by any means,let my opinion prevent you from building that roof and test it!!

cheers,

cita


Micke Fredriksson - 3/4/06 at 08:34 PM


Vetsanding and polishing the paint.

Hella 2" projektor and 3" highbeams





Fram a solid aluminium axel a CNC macin made the houings from my drawing.




The final finish.


ScothBright fabric makes the "brushed" finish. SUPERB!!






Front wheels newly painted. Really cool!!


Mave - 7/4/06 at 05:17 PM

Hej Micke,
it's looking awesome! Also an excelent choice of colour; very classy.

Is the front part of your headlight an original Hella part (the silver part with the grooves)? I've been trying to find something similar for my car, but haven't been able to find them. So now I have ordinary 5 3/4" light...

Marcel


Micke Fredriksson - 7/4/06 at 07:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mave
Hej Micke,
it's looking awesome! Also an excelent choice of colour; very classy.

Is the front part of your headlight an original Hella part (the silver part with the grooves)? I've been trying to find something similar for my car, but haven't been able to find them. So now I have ordinary 5 3/4" light...

Marcel



Hi!! Thanks!!
Yes the front part of the headlight is original Hella. 2" lens.


Micke Fredriksson - 16/4/06 at 08:03 PM







The Mride T42 turbo trike is now finished after mutchous of work!!

Do you like it as it turned out?

[Edited on 16/4/06 by Micke Fredriksson]


Spyderman - 17/4/06 at 02:18 PM

That looks amazing now it is painted Micke!

You must be very proud! Nice colour by the way.

I take it you decided against the bare carbon fibre look in the end?

Terry


Micke Fredriksson - 22/4/06 at 11:02 PM

The spring is finally here in the north of Sweden!!!!





Micke Fredriksson - 3/5/06 at 07:51 PM