Afternoon all.

There is a chance of a life insurance policy I have paying me lots of money for having been quite ill. And with some of the money I would like to buy a Ferret Scout Tank. You know, one of these things:



But I don't know a great deal about them, nor do I know anyone local that has one so I can go have a good nose about. Whilst I would prefer a Stalwart as they float, having looked into them, it would ruin me. So this would be a nice little weekend run about type of tank!

So basically, do you or someone you know have a Ferret? Any hints/tips/advice would be welcome!

Yes please! Very jealous!

Hi,

Sorry to be pedantic but it is a Ferret Scout CAR, it had a Rolls Royce B60 engine, or if unlucky it could have the BL version of the engine, the gearbox is a 5 speed preselect unit with forward and reverse ytansfer box and it is constant 4WD, the weak point is the transmission it can fail easily without you knowing and then it will fail again leaving you stranded, ask me how I know.

Anything else you want to know just ask, I have repaired a few in my time including an engine change in the desert which was a sheer joy.

Regards

Bob

Steering wheel slopes the wrong way and incredibly uncomfortable to drive from a very distant memory

You need a nice off road area to play in

http://milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1

is where you need to look.

I would prefer something like this myself


AEC
Regards Mark

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Stalwarts might float but they almost all had the propulsion jet unit removed back in the late1970s.
Do the sensible thing a buy a nice Champ.

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How much does one of those go for? What about something like a brdm?http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Tanks_Trucks_Jeeps_for_sale_page.html

I used to drive one when I was in TA'S , BLOODY AWFUL THINGS.
Engine was sweet as a nut but everthing else was very agricultural.
There is one sat outside the barracks in Calvert lane in Hull.
Best of luck.
Denis.

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Afternoon all.

There is a chance of a life insurance policy I have paying me lots of money for having been quite ill. And with some of the money I would like to buy a Ferret Scout Tank. You know, one of these things:



But I don't know a great deal about them, nor do I know anyone local that has one so I can go have a good nose about. Whilst I would prefer a Stalwart as they float, having looked into them, it would ruin me. So this would be a nice little weekend run about type of tank!

So basically, do you or someone you know have a Ferret? Any hints/tips/advice would be welcome!

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Hi,

Sorry to be pedantic but it is a Ferret Scout CAR, it had a Rolls Royce B60 engine, or if unlucky it could have the BL version of the engine, the gearbox is a 5 speed preselect unit with forward and reverse ytansfer box and it is constant 4WD, the weak point is the transmission it can fail easily without you knowing and then it will fail again leaving you stranded, ask me how I know.

Anything else you want to know just ask, I have repaired a few in my time including an engine change in the desert which was a sheer joy.

Regards

Bob

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I think there very cool

If you want to buy one this is a good site to have a look on seems you can buy anything from a 80 ton tank to a helicopter

http://www.milweb.net/home.php

Ryan

What about linky

Didn't realise they'd become that cheap. Last time I looked at Hagglunds they were more than that.

Dave the boss of three corners garage ambrosden oxfordshire has one in his reception area give him a ring if you want to have alook at one tel 01869 320100

Obvious guys to speak to are the all wheel drive club http://awdc.co.uk/



And for stalwart information, try Ralph Hosier - He is a fine engineer who has owned a few. http://www.rhel.co.uk/


what about the Russians ?? A GAZ66 camper ? http://www.russianmilitary.co.uk/

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Hi,

One of the major problems with the FSC was the brake bands in the gearbox going out of adjustment or the bands wearing, when this happens you can end up with your left knee near your ear when pre-selecting the next gear. if a hub breaks you need not nessessarily know about it until the next one goes and then you have 2 dead hubs and alot of sweat, blood and tears to replace them. The hubs are epicyclic reduction hubs. Electrics are ok but if anything goes wrong be-warned all the wires are white which makes fault finding a right PITA even though they are marked at each junction, all cables are screened to prevent interferrance to the radios.
Spark plugs are also screened and could be difficult to get hold of.

The FSC is a great vehicle to drive and you can fit electronic ignition to them (like the system fitted to the CVR(T) prior to dieselisation) which is what I would reccomend as the distributor has 2 sets of points in it, one movable and the other fixed which makes it interesting to time the points to the engine and you will swear a great deal when doing it, if I remember correctly the movable set was timed to cyls 1,3 & 5 and the fixed set to 2,4 & 6.

I know this sounds like doom and gloom but in the 22 years I served in REME I only remember sending 1 FSC to workshops for a new G/box and the engine change I did in the desert during the 1st Gulf War so they are quite reliable really.

Regards

Bob

I thought this was the same vehicle they had in the Coventry transport museam. If so when i looked at it a few weeks ago it said it was a damlier engine which combined with the very heavy body meant it was dog slow and topped out at 40 or 50 mph.

Hi Mike,

No the FSC had a RR B60 which was a part of a family of engines with intercgangeable parts i.e. Valves/Springs/Rocker Shafts (split into 2 cylinders)/Pistons/Conrods/ Mains etc.

The B40 was fitted to the Champ, B60 to the FSC and the B80 fitted to Saracen and Saladin, there was another a B81 which did not have the interchangable parts and was fitted to the Stalwart.

The engine was F type, i.e. exhaust valves were side valve and inlets were overhead. RR made all the initial engines and then BL got the contract as they could produce the engine cheaper. The only way I found of knowing which engine was which was when you took the sump off on the RR all crank/conrods were hand scraped to remove the surface tensions whereas BL just shot blasted them.

Regards

Bob

Bob,

Thanks for that, some good info there. So whilst fault finding can be a fiddle, over all they're a solid little vehicle? Since I would probably be using it for mainly road use, is there any thing that can be easily done to either increase it's top speed or it's range? I don't mind going everywhere at 40-50 mph, but it would be nice to be ale to go further afield in it should the desire arise. Or is it just one of those things that you have to live with?

The top speed is one thing that would put me off a Hagglund having looked closer again. Maxing out at 34 would make using it anywhere other than fields a PITA I think. Which is a shame, as I think they're really quite cool things.

Humber Pig APV Military Tank Armoured Car Riot Security SWAT Police | eBay

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Thats got to be eye wateringly thirsty, 7.5 tonnes with a 4.2 litre engine. Might even be worse than my jeep!

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Hi,

One of the major problems with the FSC was the brake bands in the gearbox going out of adjustment or the bands wearing, when this happens you can end up with your left knee near your ear when pre-selecting the next gear. if a hub breaks you need not nessessarily know about it until the next one goes and then you have 2 dead hubs and alot of sweat, blood and tears to replace them. The hubs are epicyclic reduction hubs. Electrics are ok but if anything goes wrong be-warned all the wires are white which makes fault finding a right PITA even though they are marked at each junction, all cables are screened to prevent interferrance to the radios.
Spark plugs are also screened and could be difficult to get hold of.

The FSC is a great vehicle to drive and you can fit electronic ignition to them (like the system fitted to the CVR(T) prior to dieselisation) which is what I would reccomend as the distributor has 2 sets of points in it, one movable and the other fixed which makes it interesting to time the points to the engine and you will swear a great deal when doing it, if I remember correctly the movable set was timed to cyls 1,3 & 5 and the fixed set to 2,4 & 6.

I know this sounds like doom and gloom but in the 22 years I served in REME I only remember sending 1 FSC to workshops for a new G/box and the engine change I did in the desert during the 1st Gulf War so they are quite reliable really.

Regards
Bob

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Humber Pig APV Military Tank Armoured Car Riot Security SWAT Police | eBay

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Thats got to be eye wateringly thirsty, 7.5 tonnes with a 4.2 litre engine. Might even be worse than my jeep!

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