russbost
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| posted on 19/7/18 at 09:23 AM |
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MSVA 3 wheeler info needed
Ok, I'm well up on IVA for 4 wheelers, but considering a 3 wheeler (reverse trike) project, to save me reading the entire MSVA manual (much of
which must be similar to IVA?), a few quick Q's
Does it have to meet a minimum weight requirement
Is there any requirement for reverse gear?
Same Q for handbrake - I'm assuming it is, I assume has to be mechanical?
What are the differences between bodied & unbodied treatment at MSVA test - I'm assuming if you attend with an unbodied vehicle you
don't have the same daft radius requirements that IVA has? & also assume a body could be added at a later date once registered?
If bodied does the test have min radius requirements?
Seat belts? I'm thinking along the lines of a Morgan style vehicle - & if a requirement do they have similar min height requirement for
mounting
Similar collapsible column requirement to IVA?
If bodied & with a screen does it have requirement for wiper & demist?
Can a reverse trike have a single headlight or are 2 a must?
Do wheel arches (mudguards) have to meet a minimum coverage? (no. of degrees of wheel covered)
All info much welcomed!
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Benzine
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| posted on 19/7/18 at 09:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by russbost
Does it have to meet a minimum weight requirement
No, just a maximum weight of 1000kg.
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
Same Q for handbrake - I'm assuming it is, I assume has to be mechanical?
Yep
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Originally posted by russbost
Can a reverse trike have a single headlight or are 2 a must?
Yes, unless it's wider than 1700mm, then it needs 2 headlights. It can have 1 position lamp if narrower than 1300mm, wider needs 2.
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JC
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| posted on 19/7/18 at 08:41 PM |
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And no requirement for reverse gear!
What plot are you hatching Russ? I caught the three wheeler itch at Blyton a few years back and need to scratch it!!!
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russbost
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 04:28 PM |
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Ok, thanks for info so far, can anyone shed any light on the other Q's?
Particularly:-
What are the differences between bodied & unbodied treatment at MSVA test - I'm assuming if you attend with an unbodied vehicle you
don't have the same daft radius requirements that IVA has? & also assume a body could be added at a later date once registered?
If bodied does the test have min radius requirements?
Seat belts? I'm thinking along the lines of a Morgan style vehicle - & if a requirement do they have similar min height requirement for
mounting
Thanks for any input
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
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Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
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Ugg10
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 04:42 PM |
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May be worth asking on the MeV owners forum under the tr1ke section.
http://mevowners.proboards.com/board/43/tr1ke
Not sure how friendly they are but a call to sve/exo cars may answer your question as they now sell the tr1ke.
Personally I would read the manual myself as I never believe anything said on the internet :-)
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russbost
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 06:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JC
And no requirement for reverse gear!
What plot are you hatching Russ? I caught the three wheeler itch at Blyton a few years back and need to scratch it!!!
It's all ideas in my head at present, I've always had a soft spot for 3 wheelers, tho' only reverse trikes, a single front wheel
doesn't do it for me - in my teens a mate's Dad who was car mad, enlisted my assistance in building a 3 wheeler from scratch. We used a
Mini front subframe with an Austin 1100 engine & box & used one of the mini radius arms as a trailing arm at the rear - for it's era it
went like a bomb & handled really well, I drove it myself & loved it , he made his own fibreglass bodywork for it, looked a bit like a Noddy
car crossed with a frog eye Sprite! I'd actually love to know what happened to the car, he sold it some 40 odd years ago & I lost touch
with the family a few years later, can't even remember what he registered it as now, may have been a "Dawson Special" or similar as
the surname was Dawson
Anyway, I've toyed with reverse trikes in my head ever since & still want to do something b4 I'm too old to deal with it all. I was
tempted to do something not dissimilar to the Tr1ke, but using the ZZR1100 engine & box rather than the R1, (cheaper, more grunt & a beefier
clutch & gearbox) but things like that & the Grinnall do seem to have a bit of a rep for being a handful near the limit. Hence I've been
thinking more along the lines of the Triking & 2 CV based cars, only with a different engine/box, which TTBOMK no one has used as yet. Withe
engine up front, like the Morgan you have more stability, probably a bit more trouble getting the power on the floor tho' .........
I have a particular powertrain in mind with an air cooled bike engine up front, very visible & reasonably attractive using the donors shaft drive
box & an extended prop to the original rear wheel & shaft drive, almost certainly using the donor swing arm. I'm thinking use both
wheels off the bike, getting another matching front to go on the remaining corner & as you already have a pair of discs/calipers why not make use
of them? Run bike tyres up front with a wider car tyre at the rear to get the power down. I'm defo thinking old school styling rather than
modern, but the reason I was asking about bodied/unbodied, is that if made with a reasonably "pretty" frame, then it could be built
cheaply, "naked" or close to it & then have a body, or even different bodies (so not necessarily old school) that could be added at a
later date, after registration thus spreading the cost
Unfortunately I also have about 3 or 4 other trike ideas in my head, including a super economy electric one (with a range extender), a similar one but
single seat & much narrower as a city commuter with basic weather gear, & a couple of other more performance based vehicles. Also thinking of
a totally different way of controlling everything from power to steering & braking - but it will probably all never come to more than a pipe
dream
I mean, I knew a bloke once that wanted to put something on the road that looked, at a glance, a bit like a modern F1 car - I mean, c'mon, as if
......... 
Ugg10, yes, I will most definitely read the manual b4 starting, but no harm in having a head start!
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Ugg10
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 06:47 PM |
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St1100 / 1300 by any chance? Sounds like it would work in the configuration you describe.
(Or any of the bmw boxers)
[Edited on 20/7/18 by Ugg10]
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russbost
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 06:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
St1100 / 1300 by any chance? Sounds like it would work in the configuration you describe.
(Or any of the bmw boxers)
[Edited on 20/7/18 by Ugg10]
Ooooh! I couldn't possibly comment. but never heard of an ST, is that a typo for RT?
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Ugg10
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| posted on 20/7/18 at 07:04 PM |
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Nope - Honda Paneuropean, 1100cc v4 mounted longitudinal with shaft drive (st1300 was basically an updated version with 1300cc). One was put into a
Stuart Taylor Loco seven car a while back. Quite tall but very torquey, more like a car engine and regularly do 50k+ miles.
[Edited on 20/7/18 by Ugg10]
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JC
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| posted on 21/7/18 at 06:13 AM |
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I will check but as I recall if you sit ‘in’ you need seatbelts, if you sit astride you don’t...
Edit: Yes I was correct.
Unlike IVA, the bike SVA is relatively small and easier to read - and much less onerous than IVA.
I have always had the BMW trike idea in my mind. I saw this online - 2CV based but fancied a BMW version:
[img]
 
Three wheels 1
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I also saw this at Stoneleigh 2 years ago - the owner is on a Facebook three wheeler page I follow!
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Three wheels 2
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Was thinking of ordering a Triking....may delay that now!! 
[Edited on 21/7/18 by JC]
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russbost
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| posted on 21/7/18 at 09:06 AM |
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The ST, yes, got it now, very good lump I believe, but that's water cooled & I think reverse trikes look really cool with some cooling fins
on display!
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russbost
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| posted on 21/7/18 at 09:08 AM |
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JC, what's the FB group as a matter of interest?
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JC
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| posted on 21/7/18 at 09:33 AM |
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Its called 3 wheeled kit cars
There's a post by me on there with the same photo on it where the owner gets in contact.
If you cant find it, I'll send you a FB friend request and add you to the group!
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russbost
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| posted on 21/7/18 at 12:19 PM |
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I'm "pending"!
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russbost
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| posted on 23/7/18 at 01:06 PM |
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Well. I've joined that group, but can't see the post on there you refer to, would defo like more info on that car & how it's
been put together
Edited to say, I've found it now!
[Edited on 23/7/18 by russbost]
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furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
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russbost
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| posted on 1/8/18 at 06:05 PM |
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Well, don't expect anything to happen too quickly as I'm quite busy with other stuff at present, but just purchased what I hope to be a
suitable donor, should be collecting tomorrow!
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
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furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
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