FUORISERIE
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| posted on 27/4/07 at 05:36 PM |
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Mosquito & Triads
What do you guys think of the Mosquito and the Triad ? I wonder if a restyling ,could make it an interesting proposition in the 3wheeler kit
market.....
check this new website:
http://www.mosquito-triad.com/home.html
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 27/4/07 at 05:51 PM |
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below a certain weight and sva doesnt apply , tho i will have to check that statement is still true .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Humbug
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| posted on 27/4/07 at 05:57 PM |
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Fugly, IMHO... they would need a major restyling to be acceptable 
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Chippy
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| posted on 27/4/07 at 10:57 PM |
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Arent they just a mini in a three piece suit,
bloody ugle though, designed in a bad dream. Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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Memphis Twin
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| posted on 28/4/07 at 09:29 AM |
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Bravo for wanting to try something different! Go for it.
There are those who think that a Lotus 7 type of car is ugly, particularly a "book" Locost, so I wouldn't bother too much about
comments on this forum. The Triad would be a very capable little sportscar and a lot of fun, and different from the 20,000 other "7"s out
there.
I'd rather be a Lion than a Sheep....
And to the other contributors to this thread; thankyou for your full and constructive, non-blinkered, non-biased replies....
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 28/4/07 at 12:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Memphis Twin
Bravo for wanting to try something different! Go for it.
There are those who think that a Lotus 7 type of car is ugly, particularly a "book" Locost, so I wouldn't bother too much about
comments on this forum. The Triad would be a very capable little sportscar and a lot of fun, and different from the 20,000 other "7"s out
there.
I'd rather be a Lion than a Sheep....
And to the other contributors to this thread; thankyou for your full and constructive, non-blinkered, non-biased replies....
Thanks and I totally agree with you, on trying different things...
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 28/4/07 at 12:08 PM |
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a very rough sketch idea of what i was thinking.
Bigger 14-15 in. minilites and a few other goodies..., polycarbonate windscreen for now..
This is an overlay sketch of the image you see, so the proportions are the same.
What do you guys think of it?
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 28/4/07 at 12:39 PM |
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two more 5min. rough doodles...
[Edited on 28/4/07 by FUORISERIE]
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 28/4/07 at 02:12 PM |
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last doodle.....
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Memphis Twin
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 posted on 28/4/07 at 10:26 PM |
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That looks excellent! ... and of course the mini engine is very tuneable, so with only 350kg to pull along, it should be a very fast little car.
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 10:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Memphis Twin
That looks excellent! ... and of course the mini engine is very tuneable, so with only 350kg to pull along, it should be a very fast little car.
Thanks.., will do a few more rough sketches, and see what happens with this idea......
A friend has pointed out, the more modern Metro k-series engine for such a project, being a very light and revvy engine. What do you guys think?
I like the idea of a simple bolt on engine to a chassis set-up, and if you don't like 3wheelers you can turn it into a 4wheeler........
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iank
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 11:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by FUORISERIE
quote:
Originally posted by Memphis Twin
That looks excellent! ... and of course the mini engine is very tuneable, so with only 350kg to pull along, it should be a very fast little car.
Thanks.., will do a few more rough sketches, and see what happens with this idea......
A friend has pointed out, the more modern Metro k-series engine for such a project, being a very light and revvy engine. What do you guys think?
I like the idea of a simple bolt on engine to a chassis set-up, and if you don't like 3wheelers you can turn it into a 4wheeler........
Once again a very nice set of drawings.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Memphis Twin
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 11:10 AM |
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But will the Metro K series fit the Mini front subframe, which (I believe) is an integral part of the Triad?
A good 1400 A Series with ported, big-valve head, scatter cam, running on twin flat-slide carburettors will be the perfect engine. Mechanically simple
with loads of power.
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 12:07 PM |
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Once again a very nice set of drawings.
Thanks, just trying to find a few ideas, and have fun.....
[Edited on 29/4/07 by FUORISERIE]
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 12:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Memphis Twin
But will the Metro K series fit the Mini front subframe, which (I believe) is an integral part of the Triad?
A good 1400 A Series with ported, big-valve head, scatter cam, running on twin flat-slide carburettors will be the perfect engine. Mechanically simple
with loads of power.
I honestly have no idea.....I found this great website where you can see the buildup of the Onyx firefox, with a K-series engine.
By looking at the pictures , I think the engine does have something of a subframe, but I'm not that sure.
Maybe you guys can confirm it to me.....
I think this chassis set-up could lend itself, to a similar 3 and 4 wheeler design.....
check this site:
http://www.davebence.co.uk/onyx_firefox/build_4.htm
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iank
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| posted on 29/4/07 at 04:15 PM |
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Metro and mini have very similar, but not identical subframes. Metro one is a little bigger, but can be made to fit a mini with some work.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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CGILL
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 05:33 AM |
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Might have fun getting the hydrogas to work with 3 wheels from a metro  .
Don't forget that honda vtecs have been grafted into minis many times
would prefer a wider track than a mini for a 3 wheeler personally.
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 08:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CGILL
Might have fun getting the hydrogas to work with 3 wheels from a metro .
Don't forget that honda vtecs have been grafted into minis many times
would prefer a wider track than a mini for a 3 wheeler personally.
I liked the idea of a very cheap donor vehicle, and the mini did fit the bill, but I guess you could use any modern fwd engine setup.
The Metro or Mini seems like a very inexpensive solution, and i have no experience concerning the hydrogas units.
I also think that other modern engines could be considered for this type of 3wheeler, but I wanted it to be inexpensive to build and run....or that is
the idea of this sketch.....
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Memphis Twin
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 10:28 AM |
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Why try to complicate things? The Triad chassis is designed for a Mini front subframe, so the ideal engine/transmission would have to be a ....Mini!
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iank
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 11:18 AM |
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have you seen the price of mini's these days? for what you (well I) got it's a complete rip off. Rusting piles of junk with knackered
parts are £200-300+
Metro's are much cheaper and are all in better condition, but also getting less common.
As for why (an honest) 100bhp costs several thousand pounds from an A series and the gearbox isn't really up to it. 100bhp is out of the box
for a twincam 1.4 K series and you get a strong(ish) 5 speed box, with the 1800VVC K series a drop in upgrade! It's also a lot lighter.
I'd go for coil overs rather than rubber springs/hydro if the shock mounts are up to it.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:21 PM |
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I guess that, the Triad could accept the Metro subframe ?.....what other modern engine could fit the design brief as the old mini did?, any ideas?
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:41 PM |
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looking at some of the pictures in more detail, I did notice a pronounced front overhang!, I wonder if it's the design of the front bonnet... ,
or the k-series engine slant ?
Does this make the 4wheeler option, with k-series engine a better design? what do you all think?
It does look like a fun inexpensive runabout.., but the design could use some help...
[Edited on 30/4/07 by FUORISERIE]
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 3/5/07 at 07:45 AM |
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Any thoughts an the chassis or engine setup?
Thanks for your feedback...
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CGILL
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| posted on 4/5/07 at 03:50 AM |
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After putting in the effort of building a spaceframe up, I can't see the point on bolting the ugly subframe to it, when it would be tidier
mounting up the arms and rack to a piece of spaceframe, and wouldn't be a huge amount of extra work in the big picture.
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