bigrich
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posted on 26/12/07 at 10:40 AM |
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Turbo BEC worth it or not
Well for post 1000 i thought i would ask the question,
In my own mind i love the idea but what are the pitfalls, shortcomings etc.
other than uprateing the cooling system and poss reducing compression(I know its a bit high on the 10r but pistons are available) what else do i need
to consider.
A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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Davey D
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:00 AM |
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Ive thought about it when mine is eventually finished, but something else that put me off turbo'ing is how little space there is on the exhaust
side of the engine to fit a 4-1 manifold, and turbo before the bodywork gets in the way. if you did manage to get it all in there the hole in the side
of your bodywork will be wrong as you will have 1 bigger pipe coming out instead of 4 smaller ones. i have seen people cut out the full side of their
bodywork so the turbo is hanging out the side, but im not keen on that look. yes it does kind of shout out - look at me... im f**king fast, but a
prefer the look of having the bodywork there.
i have decided when the time comes that im going to supercharge mine. i can fit the charger on the other side of the engine where there is loads more
space, and i can keep the same exhaust system as ive got now
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Echidna
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:06 AM |
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If i were you, i would never think about turbocharging in such a delicate car. Remember that a Seven replica is not a car for the traffic lights,
it's a car for the track. You don't mind if you will be slow in 0-60 mph, you should mind about lap times, and balanced handling.
Think about turbo lag, powertrain complexity and balance loss.
If i would like more bhp i would opt for light supercharging.
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richard thomas
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:10 AM |
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Just crack on fella!!
(when you find the pitfalls, let me know...)
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Hellfire
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:19 AM |
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Rich, I would strongly suggest you speak to Paul Fisher before deciding whether to turbo charge or not. Drop him a U2U, I'm sure he'll be
able to give you some good advice.
Phil
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bigrich
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:28 AM |
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Cheers Phil, did just that a couple of days ago so have his point of view,was just wondering what others thought or their experiences etc to get a
rounded view, before maybe taking the plunge
Rich
A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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imp paul
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:44 AM |
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go on you know it makes sence
[Edited on 26/12/07 by imp paul]
[Edited on 26/12/07 by imp paul]
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Dangle_kt
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:48 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by bigrich
Cheers Phil, did just that a couple of days ago so have his point of view,was just wondering what others thought or their experiences etc to get a
rounded view, before maybe taking the plunge
Rich
mind sharing?
Just a overall idea, rather than his exact words.
I'd rather hear off people who have done it rather than someone who is guessing.
Mine isn't even built yet, so turbo will be a long way off. But still im interested in canvessing opinion prior to "going" for
it.
Cheers
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imp paul
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posted on 26/12/07 at 12:09 PM |
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yer if you need to know anything if i can help i will (mb customs good place to start
from)
[Edited on 26/12/07 by imp paul]
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worX
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posted on 26/12/07 at 12:36 PM |
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Rich,
If I was you I would definitely give Malc a call...
http://www.mbcustoms.co.uk/
Tel: 01323 743733
Try to give him a call earlier on in the day as he is often busy, and as he is so forthcoming with helpful info I feel guilty talking to him in the
middle of the day...
Cheers,
Steve
Oh and - Yeah get it done mate!!!
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Simon
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posted on 26/12/07 at 01:17 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Davey D
........how little space there is on the exhaust side of the engine to fit a 4-1 manifold, and turbo before the bodywork gets in the way.
Que!
You clearly haven't seen a "tight" engine compartment
ATB
Simon
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Hellfire
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posted on 26/12/07 at 01:25 PM |
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Not only does it look extremely tight but also verrrry heavy.
Phil
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djtom
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posted on 26/12/07 at 07:09 PM |
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Does that mean that you've almost finished it Simon?!! I'll have to try to make it over to PW to have a look if so.
And as for the CBR1000 turbo - do it!
Tom
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imp paul
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posted on 26/12/07 at 07:33 PM |
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RE TURBO
I HAVE A BRAND NEW GT28R TURBO FOR SALE WAS UP AT £400 NOW £350 WITH EXTRAS ALSO BEGI
RISEING RATE REG COST £250 FOR SALE AT £125
[Edited on 26/12/07 by imp paul]
[Edited on 26/12/07 by imp paul]
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Simon
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posted on 26/12/07 at 08:28 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by djtom
Does that mean that you've almost finished it Simon?!! I'll have to try to make it over to PW to have a look if so.
And as for the CBR1000 turbo - do it!
Tom
Tom,
Not quite - I'm hoping to finish the loom (to ECU) over the next couple of days, then maybe try starting it.
Then get on with bonnet, which I should be able to do in a week
ATB
Simon
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tigris
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posted on 26/12/07 at 11:51 PM |
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tyres
what width tyres are you guys running with a turbo? We have 245/35/16 toyos states side. I wonder if they would be good for a 2225-250 hp R1 turbo?
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welderman
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posted on 27/12/07 at 10:04 AM |
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As a couple have said, give Malc a ring, he is a top bloke.
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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PAUL FISHER
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posted on 27/12/07 at 04:17 PM |
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As a few of you know,I have been building a new spec-R Indy with a zx10r turbo,but I have had a few problems along the way,and ended up now with a
standard 2007 zx10r engine fitted,without the turbo,and my bank account a good few thousand pound lighter ,forsight is a wonderfull thing but,and a
few people saying we told you so. I would now start by having the engine stripped 1st,reduce the compression,fit uprated pistons,fit a big
intercooler,and then get the car set up by a proffesional,such as Malc at MB customs,and don't listen to some guy from the USA thats trying to
sell you some very expensive bit of kit
we live and learn,but least I did manage 200 miles of real fun,the drive was truly awesum,not a hint of lag,just mental.
But Ive missed having my own car for the track for the last 18 months,so Ive been torn between continuing with the project,or getting a car on a track
again,and at the end of the day,for me anyway thats what its all about
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welderman
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posted on 27/12/07 at 11:30 PM |
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Paul i never relised you had done that, im in shock, yes ive spent loads and i thought yours was well and truly sorted.
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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PAUL FISHER
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posted on 28/12/07 at 03:26 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by welderman
Paul i never relised you had done that, im in shock, yes ive spent loads and i thought yours was well and truly sorted.
Yes Joe,gutted realy,but at least I am going to get back on a few track days first thing in the new year,can't wait
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welderman
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posted on 28/12/07 at 07:19 PM |
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im hoping to do some track days too, but work, kids and the wife starting an open uni course it,s all too much.
Fingers crossed here.
Paul hope to catch up.
Joe
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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dilley
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posted on 31/12/07 at 09:58 PM |
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told you so!!!!! do it right first time!!
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