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andyace

posted on 12/1/05 at 04:12 PM Reply With Quote
DeDion Kit

Hello All,

Could any one tell me what is included in the GTS DeDion rear axle kit and what I will have to make/source elsewhere? I have the donor Sierra.

I understand that there are some chassis mods as detailed in the PDF. Do I have to make the diff mounts or are they included?

Trailing arms, panhard rod ?

Many thanks, Andy

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flak monkey

posted on 12/1/05 at 04:23 PM Reply With Quote
IIRC the trailing arms and panhard rod are included. GTS also sell diff mounts (think they are in the chassis section..) which i think you need to buy separately.

Mods as in pdf as you say.

David





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big_wasa

posted on 13/1/05 at 12:22 AM Reply With Quote
de dion

Information above is NOT corect! I have just received my de deion axle from darren at gts and what you get for the £140 as advertised on his site is just the one piece which is the de dion axle all outher bits are seperate! Nice piece worth the dosh, when you think about the work involved in converting a live axle its a much beter propersition . pics in my archive

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andyace

posted on 13/1/05 at 10:34 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks 4 that,

Given that, what do I need to also order to get my rear axle fixed on and working from GTS?

At a guess :

De Dion Axle
Trailing Arms
Panhard Rod
Bushs (I assume these dont come with arms and rod)
Something to connect panhard rod to axle?
Diff mounts

Am I missing anything and does GTS supply all of these ?

Also looking at the pic are there brackets on the axle from GTS which connect the trailing arms or do you have to make these yourself as in a live axle?

[Edited on 13/1/05 by andyace]

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flak monkey

posted on 13/1/05 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
OK my bad...





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Avoneer

posted on 13/1/05 at 05:01 PM Reply With Quote
I though (according to a previous post by Daz) that everything was included apart from the diff brackets, poly bushes and the rod end for the panhard rod???????
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ned

posted on 13/1/05 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
mine included the axle, trailing arms, panhard rod and bolts/bushes. no dif mounts, bought them seperatley from darren.

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Avoneer

posted on 13/1/05 at 05:20 PM Reply With Quote
Quotes from Daz:

"In the £150 you get the Panhard rod, DeDion axle, trailing arms. The only thing you need is the diff mounts unless you fancy making your own, they are only £12."





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big_wasa

posted on 13/1/05 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
de dion

It was having read the previous posts that I purchased my axle from Darren..It said nothing on his website about the outher bits being inclueded and they where not present when delivered? I was charged £140 not the £150 as stated in previous posts? So Asumed prices must have gone up? Cost of four trailing arms and panhard rod minus rose joint is another £67.50... Arms, £12.5x4 plus £17.50 for the panhard rod?So if Darren could shed some light on this matter I would be greatfull !
Another pic of my axle...

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big_wasa

posted on 13/1/05 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
de dion

de dion from Darren at GTS...less than a month ago!

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andyace

posted on 16/1/05 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
Help Anyone.... Darren!!

Anyone bought the DeDion Axle kit, seems to be hit and miss as to what you get.
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JoelP

posted on 16/1/05 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
ring him and ask, his number is on his website. best way to solve a problem...






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chunkielad

posted on 16/1/05 at 11:26 PM Reply With Quote
I emailed Darren a few days ago as I need to go with the Sierra back end - awaiting a reply - will inform you when I know what is happening.
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ady8077

posted on 16/1/05 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
Isn't he at the autosports show?

Adrian

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chunkielad

posted on 16/1/05 at 11:44 PM Reply With Quote
Bugger!! I was hoping to order in the next day or so once I sorted the contents out!!

We may have to wait another few days then!!

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andyace

posted on 17/1/05 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
It was never meant to be like this!!!

I have got a reply from Darren and the answer is that the axle alone is £150, see my calculations below for the rest of the costs. As you can see to get get my chassis rolling is going to set me back about £750 ( Gulp, the wifes going to kill me, she was ok when she saw Rons books title!!!!!)

Anyone have any cheaper options 4 me please.

Darrens Reply :

The DeDion rear set up you require is:-

DeDion axle - £150
Panhard rod - £17.50
Trailing arms - 4 off at £12.50 each
Rod end for panahrd rod - £12.50

You may also need diff mounts - £12.50 a pair and poly bushes a £2 each (9 off required, or £48.00 for a full car set)

The front is 2 top wishbones(£48), 2 bottom wishbones(£70), 1 pair of mushroom adaptors (£32.50), 1 pair steering rack extensions (£16), 2 transit ball joints (£13), 2 maxi ball joints (£32), 2 locknuts (£2)

Kind regards,

Darren


My Calculations :

Rear :
DeDion Axle £150
Panhard Rod £17.50
Trailing Arms £50
Rod End £12.50
Diff Mounts £12.50
Delivery £17
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£259.50
Front :
2 Top Wishbones £48
2 Bot Wishbones £70
Mushroom Adapters £32.50
St Rack Extensions £16
2 Transit Ball Joints £13
2 Maxi Ball Joints £32
2 Locknuts £2
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£213.50

Poly Bushes (Car Set) £48

Adjustable Shock Kit £220
Shock Kit Delivery £12

Total To Get It Rolling : £753

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Avoneer

posted on 17/1/05 at 06:38 PM Reply With Quote
Have things changed then as a recent post by Daz said everything was included (i'll try and find the link and post it) - kind of put me off now,
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andyace

posted on 17/1/05 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Could you give me a comparable price to get me what I am after.

I can not see a price of £995 anywhere on the website. Cheapest kit is £1292.50

Also I have a 2.0 Pinto donor, is this going to fit in the Indy?

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britishtrident

posted on 17/1/05 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by snoopy
if youve not started building then you would be better off buying a starter kit ours is £995 you get more including most pannels


That is a good buy

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flak monkey

posted on 17/1/05 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
Are the details of the Indy actually on the mk site? If so i cant find them!

Assuming mk only have one website...

www.mkengineering.co.uk ??





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Avoneer

posted on 17/1/05 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
I'm still confused:
This is what Darren said on this post:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=10693
"In the £150 you get the Panhard rod, DeDion axle, trailing arms. The only thing you need is the diff mounts unless you fancy making your own"
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Hellfire

posted on 17/1/05 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
Clicky

MK Sportscars link above.

Flak monkey, is this what you're looking for?



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andyace

posted on 17/1/05 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
Darren... Help....

Can anyone solve the great Dedion Kit mystery !!!! Need to order something soon.

Oh and I can still not see the Indy kit for £995.

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flak monkey

posted on 17/1/05 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Clicky

MK Sportscars link above.

Flak monkey, is this what you're looking for?



It is indeed, thank you very much





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undecided

posted on 17/1/05 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
Tut tut a feel some arseyness in the air!
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