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Fozzie

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
whats not finished? The foglight might be too low for uk regs, but its the correct side for a left hooker isnt it?


On the track Joel..
It would be 'right' for a left hooker on the road...but its not for the road...or am I like Rich and missing something?





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Fozzie

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
Assuming that the car pictured is finished. A fog light for race should be centrally mounted and its far too low (thats international race regs), Darren, your side panels, they do seem to be longer than the lower part of the nose. Is this acting as some kind of air scoop, or some kind of handling aid?
I do like the invisible bonnet catches, seats and seat belts.
The suspension (IMO) seems somewhat inadequately set, in fact the panel work does actually appear to be sitting on the chassis rather than fixed to it.

Fozzie





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JoelP

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
well i dont know, im cant pretend ot know much about racecars myself. But these seem like a series of small issues, i myself could make up answers to most of them. Surely racecars have rain lights? ie, not just tail lights, but something like f1 cars use in the rain. The exhaust could well be missing its end bend. The seat might be coming from triton. Who knows? Whys it a big deal?

Plus, he never said all 7 were finished. Maybe this is the first of 7 finished? Maybe the stress he refers to was finishing moulds, not finishing 7 cars.

And i think we all know darren is unlikely to post soon, because he always ends up wasting time with silly threads (sorry guys, picking fault in a photo of a car is daft in my books, nothing personal )

cross posted there fozzie, i cant comment on race regs or panel fitting, but you get my drift

[Edited on 30/10/05 by JoelP]






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mnr laptop

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
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Pics are of a race car (one of a batch of 7) going out to Dubai's new race track to form a racing school. Hence left hand drive, full cage and no lights.



my ex is one of the instructors at dubai circuit , she tells me they also have an order for 30 caterhams too, its one hell of a facilty

only problem is it is damn hot there, even winter is warm

cant see them needing the weather light

the body is joined i think just near the front edge of the arch,
re rollbar would think its fine in the primera touring car i had 2 1/2 inches of clearance on the front lateral bar to my head ( but we used hans devices ) would think they probably will use these anyway as they are big into suing over there if you have a crash ( and the driving on the roads is like taking your life in your hands over there ) shudder to think what they are like on the circuit

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Fozzie

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by JoelP
well i dont know, im cant pretend ot know much about racecars myself. But these seem like a series of small issues, i myself could make up answers to most of them. Surely racecars have rain lights? ie, not just tail lights, but something like f1 cars use in the rain. The exhaust could well be missing its end bend. The seat might be coming from triton. Who knows? Whys it a big deal?

Plus, he never said all 7 were finished. Maybe this is the first of 7 finished? Maybe the stress he refers to was finishing moulds, not finishing 7 cars.

And i think we all know darren is unlikely to post soon, because he always ends up wasting time with silly threads (sorry guys, picking fault in a photo of a car is daft in my books, nothing personal )

cross posted there fozzie, i cant comment on race regs or panel fitting, but you get my drift

[Edited on 30/10/05 by JoelP]


Joel, I think you miss my point
Darren has clearly spent time and effort in producing a +4 (wider) car and bodywork.
If pictures are going to be shown to the public and potential customers, surely it would make good sense, to state as to whether it is the 'finished' article, or just say, 'this is it so far, but got a few mods to do to complete'.
Far from being 'silly posts' I would have thought that for maybe new customers, clarification as to the finished state of the 'W7DE' would be paramount.
ATB Fozzie






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Rorty

posted on 31/10/05 at 07:01 AM Reply With Quote
I must agree; if you're going to put an obviously unfinished car up on a forum, then you should hang around and fend any questions and not thumb your nose at the forum!
I really can't understand how Darren continues to attract business from anyone on this forum, irrespective of the quality of his stuff.





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scotty g

posted on 31/10/05 at 07:12 AM Reply With Quote
Fozzie,
To the best of my knowledge the bodywork is not a one piece job, it is more or less the same as the Panther only wider obviously. I beleive the lights a a pair of driving lights and a fog light as it was asked for by the customer.
The seat is not in yet but it has been made from a new mould, 2 inches wider to make use of the extra space, it just needs fitting.
As for your other issues i'm afraid i don't have the answers, sorry matey.
Cheers.

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marc n

posted on 31/10/05 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
strangely enough heard from the ex today and she was telling me the car they had as a demo from a large 7 type organisation struggled to stay cool enough might be worth looking at a decent four core ( if you havent already )

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Triton

posted on 31/10/05 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
If the engines are cooking surely the grp will also suffer....just as a thought.





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mnr laptop

posted on 31/10/05 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
this particular car as i understand it is mainly alloy and carbon bodied, dont know what fibreglass will be like never thought of that
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Triton

posted on 31/10/05 at 10:48 PM Reply With Quote
Well grp is funny stuff and will move if it gets too warm...





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mandy69

posted on 31/10/05 at 11:20 PM Reply With Quote
Move? or melt?
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MikeR

posted on 31/10/05 at 11:22 PM Reply With Quote
Marc, your ex-misses, let me get this right, shes in a fantastic country, loves driving (and driving fast), teaches people to race for a living .......

errm, whats the ettique in asking for her number?

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Triton

posted on 31/10/05 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
Heat and grp don't really mix unless high temp resin and gel coat used





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Ian Pearson

posted on 31/10/05 at 11:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

cant see them needing the weather light



Often gets foggy in the Gulf, fog light quite handy. Not sure about on the race track though.

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Triton

posted on 31/10/05 at 11:47 PM Reply With Quote
Just to keep the scrutineer bods happy i should think, but as said before it's supposed to be in the centre and as high as poss.





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Fozzie

posted on 1/11/05 at 09:35 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Triton
Heat and grp don't really mix unless high temp resin and gel coat used


T'other half used to build Panthers back in the 70's-80's, I can't remember precisely which model had the problem, but the grp bubbled and distorted like crazy! Mega problems and, and yes I do know that technology has moved on somewhat since then! . but by the very nature of the composition it must still be a worry, even super dooper air flow around the engine won't be suffice with the blistering Dubai sun.
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Ian Pearson

posted on 1/11/05 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
Loads of fibreglass boats, fibreglass water tanks etc, in the Gulf. They don't blister or melt, so it can obviously be done.
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dozracing

posted on 1/11/05 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
I'll try and post these answer quick, as during the last effort the computer crashed before i could press send.

The weight is around 550kg

The rear panel and side panels are seperate pieces that butt together by your elbow.

Seats are available for road cars, now made in house. Race car in picture has a two part foam seat made to suit the driver, we have provided school seats for use with different drivers.

Fog/Rain light is partly for effect, no regulations to comply with in race school.

Cage is way above drivers head, even for a 6ft 4" big lad.

Suspension is not setup, as this car was built only to run on the rolling road and sort out the Duratec installation.

Bonnet is not fixed properly, all other panels are.

All chassis' and body panels are now either made in house or with new local suppliers to help resolve supply issues.

Darren George (Dozracing) owns GTS Tuning and also owns Kit Car Builds. www.gtstuning.co.uk and www.kitcarbuilds.com The design is by GTS, and cars a built in turnkey form by Kit Car Builds.

Any specific questions are best emailed to darren@gtstuning.co.uk as serious questions tend to get lost in these long threads, and therefore remain unanswered.

Kind regards,
Darren

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Fat Boy

posted on 1/11/05 at 07:40 PM Reply With Quote
GTS w7de Car

Nice one Mate,thanks for all your help with my new car,i have every thing including the seats thanks (Triton) but GTS supplied the whole thing, ie even the wheeles and tyres, well pleased.
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Triton

posted on 1/11/05 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
Crikey!!! making tyres as well now





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Danozeman

posted on 2/11/05 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
NIce looking car that mate. Was that partly built at brands? It was a lefty u were building.

Nice to see you on here again Darren.





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dozracing

posted on 3/11/05 at 04:48 PM Reply With Quote
Yes we built it to a rolling chassis with bodywork at Brands in a day. They go together pretty quick.

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mandy69

posted on 6/11/05 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
Are the rear wings specific to the wide version?
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scotty g

posted on 7/11/05 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
GTS do two types of rear wing.
A standard, for the wide body car and Escort axled Locosts.
A wide wing (2" wider) for the Panther and Locosts using Capri/ Cortina axles.

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