Confused but excited.
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 09:23 PM |
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Is Jaguar finally dead?
I saw some of the Frankfurt Motor Show on the idiot lamp tonight.
The new Aston was obviously a progession on the past and looked to die for. A wheeled missile.
The new 'Only in black' Porsche looked cool.
The Bentley was definately a move in the right direction.
There were some trick looking 4x4s.
Jaguar have always produced beautiful cars that still looked modern after twenty years.
So why, oh why does the new Jag look like a piece of crap cheap Chrysler?   
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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ned
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 09:24 PM |
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need links to piccies please 
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 09:26 PM |
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Sorry Ned, don't got any.
If anyone has, you will see what I mean.
It's the XK F.
[Edited on 1/10/07 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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bigrich
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 09:35 PM |
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/210201/jaguar_xf.html
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A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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ned
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 09:38 PM |
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hmm rear, rear 1/4 and profile looks good, not sure what happened at the front though!
thanks for the link bigrich.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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caber
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:24 PM |
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Oh oh looks like ford have sacked the UK designers and imported someone from Detroit
Caber
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Simon
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:32 PM |
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I don't doubt that it'll be a fine car, but Clarkson and co will try and finally kill of any remaining vestiges of British car
manufacturing when they get to test it!
ATB
Simon
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SixedUp
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:43 PM |
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Some nice interior touches, but hardly looks like the interior of a car that *starts* at £33k; and I'm guessing that if you do pay £33k you
won't get all those toys. As for the exterior, well, it just doesn't look like a Jaguar... no graceful feline lines
Cheers
Richard
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RK
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:48 PM |
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It looks like a Volvo but probably doesn't work as well. I went for a ride in a fairly new Jag a couple of years ago, and the switches fell
apart in your hands. Absolute, depressing crap.
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Chippy
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:52 PM |
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Has all the looks of the pug ugly "Crossfire" to me, and that's a load of (s)crap. Cheers Ray
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RazMan
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| posted on 1/10/07 at 10:58 PM |
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I'm not really keen on Jag's design direction.
The new Aston however ......... 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Ivan
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 07:05 AM |
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Nice car but NOT a Jag
Must agree - Aston get it right every time.
[Edited on 2/10/07 by Ivan]
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johnemms
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 07:18 AM |
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I just looked and my flash reaction was - Audi meets Lexus ????? hmmm
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alfasudsprint
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 07:18 AM |
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I understood Jag quality to be rivalling if not better than Merc?
Anyway, that XF is horrible. Front is pug ugly, as someone said amercianised. Sides so so, back reinds me of XK, so i like!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 08:14 AM |
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I too thought the front was reminiscent of Lexus... those headlights are butt ugly!!! Looks like a chinaman with his eyelids peeled back... sorry!!!
Jaguar would have died long ago if Ford hadn't rescued it. All Ford have done is prolong the agony in my opinion. Jaguar need to re-evaluate
their position, they were a (yes, crap) luxury car builder that if you wanted their cars you paid for them. Similar to Audi now... trouble is they
went downmarket and lowered the Marques image. Jaguar with Mondeo bits??? WTF?? Now the damage is done...
Steve
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mcerd1
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 08:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
Has all the looks of the pug ugly "Crossfire" to me, and that's a load of (s)crap. Cheers Ray
Crossfire - isn't that an old merc in drag, claiming to be an american sports car and built in germany ?
As for the Jag - the X type was an expencive mondeo, so whats the new one ? my bet is its really a new mondeo or possibly volvo?
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DarrenW
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 09:13 AM |
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As a car its not a bad looking one but doesnt seem to fit in the Jag family. The back end looks very Aston to me. The front however doesnt look
individual enough to command a premium.
When i saw the Aston i was drooling and thought wouldnt it be nice to have a more affordable one that wont devalue the Marque - the new Jag seems to
fit that bill in a strange way.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 09:23 AM |
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Er I quite like it
Runs and ducks for cover
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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andyps
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 01:39 PM |
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I don't think there is anything wrong with it - shame they didn't keep the headlights of the concept car though as they looked much
better. Apparently it doeslook much better in the metal than on the photos. and it has to look much better than a 5 series, not that that is
difficult, but hasn't stopped people buying them in droves.
Designed by a Brit, Iam Callum - the same guy who styled all the current Astons.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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darrens
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| posted on 2/10/07 at 04:08 PM |
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Jaguar have needed to move styling direction for a long time, to bring them out of the sigma, old timers car that putters you along to your leisurely
golfing day.
The new XK is/was ace, especially with the stonking sounding V8, at the moment I'm unsure on the XF, interior bonza, unsure on the front end,
will have to see in the flesh.
It is by no means ugly and even tho american own Jaguar is still classed as a british car and should be given praise.
You certainly can't throw the argument that bits of other cars i.e mondeo form the base line, yes maybe of x-type etc but doubt thats true of XK
and XF, aston have been doing that for years and seem to be able to charge excess of £70k. And styling alone doesn't makeup for the extra
£30k.
That said, wouldn't say no to new or old aston.
Just decided, think it's bonza!! I'll have one, just the problem of £33k
[Edited on 2/10/07 by darrens]
[Edited on 2/10/07 by darrens]
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