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Selling a kit car abroad help!!!
Nickctp - 18/9/13 at 05:48 AM

Morning all,

When selling a kit car to another EU country (Italy) - do I need to supply a certificate of conformity to the buyer??

Many thanks

Nick

matt_claydon - 18/9/13 at 06:06 AM

A kit car doesn't have a CoC, these are issued by manufacturers only for type-approved mass produced vehicles. The best you can do is provide a copy of the MAC or IVAC and V5C, but make sure buyer has checked what their local authority will accept as many countries do not recognise IVA or SVA.

HappyFather - 18/9/13 at 07:40 AM

According to European Law EC 2007/46 passed on to each EU member's local law, the IVA (or equivalent in any country) only provides a National Certificate. CoCs are granted, as said before, only to mass produced cars.

It is up to any EU country, when there is a request to import a car, to either accept the other country's National Certificate, refuse it completely or request further testing to accept it.
I believe currently, Germany and France refuse UK's National Certificate, Portugal accepts, Spain requires some further testing to calculate emissions (or noise?) and ensure they are below some value. Don't know on other countries.

Nickctp - 18/9/13 at 07:46 AM

Right, thanks for clarification on this however my car was originally built in 2002 PRE IVA /SVA testing I beleive? It is registered on it's age related plates (1979) relating to the donor vehicle.

With the above taken into account - am I right in thinking all I need to do is fill in the permanent export part of the V5?

Thanks

Peteff - 18/9/13 at 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Nickctp
Right, thanks for clarification on this however my car was originally built in 2002 PRE IVA /SVA testing I beleive? It is registered on it's age related plates (1979) relating to the donor vehicle.

With the above taken into account - am I right in thinking all I need to do is fill in the permanent export part of the V5?

Thanks


It would have to be pre 1998 to not have SVA and yes you do just need to fill in the permanently exported section.

Nickctp - 18/9/13 at 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Peteff
quote:
Originally posted by Nickctp
Right, thanks for clarification on this however my car was originally built in 2002 PRE IVA /SVA testing I beleive? It is registered on it's age related plates (1979) relating to the donor vehicle.

With the above taken into account - am I right in thinking all I need to do is fill in the permanent export part of the V5?

Thanks


It would have to be pre 1998 to not have SVA and yes you do just need to fill in the permanently exported section.


How is my car legally registered then?? I do not have a certificate for this. Am I missing something?

matt_claydon - 18/9/13 at 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by Nickctp
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How is my car legally registered then?? I do not have a certificate for this. Am I missing something?


Quite possibly it's not

What does the V5 say under Make and Model?

If it still has the donor's details then I'm afraid the original builder has pulled a fast one.

If it has the correct details for the kit, then either it was built earlier than you thought or DVLA have messed up.

Or possibly it did have SVA but you just don't have a copy of the certificate.

[Edited on 18/9/13 by matt_claydon]

adithorp - 18/9/13 at 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Nickctp
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Originally posted by Peteff
quote:
Originally posted by Nickctp
Right, thanks for clarification on this however my car was originally built in 2002 PRE IVA /SVA testing I beleive? It is registered on it's age related plates (1979) relating to the donor vehicle.

With the above taken into account - am I right in thinking all I need to do is fill in the permanent export part of the V5?

Thanks


It would have to be pre 1998 to not have SVA and yes you do just need to fill in the permanently exported section.


How is my car legally registered then?? I do not have a certificate for this. Am I missing something?


Because after SVA the MAC certificate is sent/given to DVLA when you register the car and they keep it.

Some people photocopy there cert' first but not all do.

Nickctp - 18/9/13 at 09:18 AM

Thanks all

Lightning - 18/9/13 at 09:49 AM

Is that to Leonardo?

Nickctp - 18/9/13 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lightning
Is that to Leonardo?


??

JonnyS - 18/9/13 at 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Nickctp
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Originally posted by Lightning
Is that to Leonardo?


??


He is based in Italy and acts as an agent for Italian purchasers. Top guy to deal with