Diesel......... the countries gone mad ?
I have one gallon to spare Jon - should last you at least 50 miles in your GT2
i'm wondering how long it will be before we see ppl advertising a gallon of fuel on sale forums or ebay!
i wonder how much longer it will be before the mad max films come true 
I am seriously considering making my own diesel... I am passing the £150 per month now.
The world is going MAD.. and I am having treatment to stop going there myself
i found a queueless garage today, i think people are calming down a bit there will, apparently, be no blockades anyway.
Vegetable Oil - a good substitute for diesel and a fraction of the cost.
I kid you not.
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Originally posted by tadltd
Vegetable Oil - a good substitute for diesel and a fraction of the cost.
I kid you not.
My understanding is you don't HAVE to declare it, but if you do then you will have to pay tax...
How many bee's would I need to get a gallon of bee pee.........
Just a thought
.............oh dear
what do you have to add to veggie oil to help it along? Or is it ok neat?
has anyone declared usage of any dutyfree fuel, and how much ball ache is it to prove the amounts etc? (or more to the point, how easy to blag
them?!)
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Originally posted by JoelP
i found a queueless garage today, i think people are calming down a bit
whatever people say about veggie fuel, I dont think im gonna risk putting it in my 15 month old car. The money saved wont add up to possible damage
caused by the experiment.
atb
steve
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Originally posted by steve_gus
whatever people say about veggie fuel, I dont think im gonna risk putting it in my 15 month old car. The money saved wont add up to possible damage caused by the experiment.
atb
steve
I saw a dye for red to white diesel on ebay..........
that would be useless anyway!
Don't need to add anything to it. Doesn't cause damage either. A quick search on tinternet will confirm...
Works a treat. Its just getting it into the tank from the 5 gallon catering size containers that's the problem.
Oh.... and your exhaust smelling like Harry Ramsdens.
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Originally posted by john_p_b
quote:
Originally posted by tadltd
Vegetable Oil - a good substitute for diesel and a fraction of the cost.
I kid you not.
but you still have to declare it and pay tax on it don't you?
Do they dip test all cars that are pulled over... or only those that have diesel badges?
Cheers,
James
only those that smell like chip shops
from my research following the biodiesel thread a while back, if you want to run straight veg oil (SVO) you need to pre heat it, as it's too
thick in its raw form
tom
Not strictly true - only if you want it to start and run more easily in the morning!
do a google on freedom fuels ? lots of stuff on bio diesel. But I supose then they will start taxing soybean oil.
Dale
If I was driving my own Taxi for a living I would consider it.
I've got a deisel car and have for the past 10 years or so. I've been pulled many times but have never once had my fuel
"dipped"
Get yourself down to Makro for the vegie oil don't forget to get a big funnel whilst you're there.
It didn't take long....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/One-gallon-of-unleaded-petrol-in-a-reuseable-container_W0QQitemZ4575363817QQcategoryZ36631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem<
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-GALLON-OF-UNLEADED-PETROL_W0QQitemZ8000162420QQcategoryZ9886QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If you have a Lucas injection pump on your diesel engine then running straight veg with no preheat will shag it big time. Well documented etc.
etc.
If you have the Bosch or equivalent you can get away with it although some form of pre heat still makes it easier to use.
All info you need is here: http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751
I run Biodiesel with no mods but my ip pump is Bosch so I could run veg if the chips were down
Cheers
Mark
boom boom
tom
I heard that one of the risks associated with veg oil is that you might FRY your clutch...!
Think I'll chew the fat on some of these replies
Then veg out for the rest of the day
Mark
PS. Here we go...........
I have posted about this before.........
you can run diesels on heating oil with no bother. You must add a small % of engine oil to it to keep the injection pump lubed correctly (think around
2% but can look this up)
Heating oil is not dyed.
Do they do a full chemistry check or is the test just colour based? i.e. would heating oil pass. I heard about an oil distributor running their
tankers on it but the ministry actually had to film them filling up to get them.
Anyhow, just drive a £250 sierra diesel and run it on heating oil. If they catch you, they can crush the car!!!! Buy another one.
Alternative for petrols is LPG conversion, followed by a bulk lpg tank in the garden and using that for your central heating. Just add a takeoff to
the pipe to fill the car's tank as well! I know of somebody doing this very nicely. Used to use propane cylinders but the bulk tank was much more
convenient!
Looks like a solvent thats supposed to thin veg oil.
Been tried in this country with a whole load of stuffed ip pumps to prove the stuff is total crap.
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
Biodiesel takes the free fatty acids out of veg to make it thinner. This looks well dodgy to me.
Still, you pays yer money.......
Mark
PS. Using white spirit as shown on Top Gear is illegal apparently.
PPS. Go here http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751 and search for Dieselsecret to see what people think.
[Edited on 14/9/05 by marktigere1]
http://www.dieselveg.com/conversion%20info.htm
offer conversion to run your car on veg oil.
The Top Gear test ran a Mercedes diesel on vegetable oil with white spirit added. It was conducted by the AA and was said to run better than on pump diesel.
For those of you that use petrol (not too many diesel sports cars about) you can always goe the brazilian way and run cars on 50% or more ethanol
mixed in with the pertrol. Not sure of any side effects on engines but the brazlians have been doing it for quite some time know.
Any body thinking of taking the die out of red diesel, don't bother. Theres more to it than colour (other additives). you might as well use it
straught and pray you don't get caught or just pay the road tax on it (so it costs the same).
To legal run home grown/made fuels IIRC you can down load the forms online fill them in and post them off with a check to pay for the road tax.
if you did that you'd only save 30%, probably not worth the risk of using shady fuels! If you follow those links theres a tale from one guy who blew $3k on a new fuel system when crud built up and ruined it!