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coozer - 6/11/06 at 08:03 PM

Cheap, used 150ish amp TIG welder? Wanted for home use. Needs to be cheap and 240v 1Phs Ready to go with torch and gas if possible.

WHY???

Steve


Coose - 6/11/06 at 08:11 PM

I've been looking at this one he re and have been pondering. Unfortunately the fact it's made in China is concerning, but just look at the price!

[Edited on 6/11/06 by Coose]


caber - 6/11/06 at 08:28 PM

I bought a new Chinese TIG last Christmas It has been wonderful, no problem and easy to use. It looks like the current Kempi Welders and the Clarke TIGs come from the same factory the box is identical except the Clarke one is blue! if you get a cheap enough price it is worth it, even more so if you can trust the seller to honour the warranty!

Caber


Danozeman - 6/11/06 at 08:34 PM

Someone on here bought one of them recently.. Wasnt there a group buy on the go aswell>?


JoelP - 6/11/06 at 08:48 PM

the group buy one is similar to the ebay one but cheaper.


Coose - 6/11/06 at 09:01 PM

Has the group-buy been and have I missed it?


DIY Si - 6/11/06 at 09:03 PM

Ask CalvinX, he's the one in charge of it.


Peteff - 6/11/06 at 09:18 PM

I'll agree on the Clarke and the others like Butters coming from the East but if you can find me a tig welder from China which is anything like Kemppi quality I will buy one tomorrow. Mitech do the Butters style welder and I've seen them for sale on ebay from shop-river along with some plasma cutters and helmets.


Peteff - 7/11/06 at 12:30 AM

I think Miller's production facilities are a bit more advanced than that.
I don't doubt they are getting parts from China, that's where most electronic components are coming from these days isn't it? Miller and Lincoln are built in America and Kemppi OY are built in Finland and are more highly featured than cheap inverters from China. Ask 907 if he'll swap his Miller DX for a Chinese one and cash I haven't been in the Miller corporation HQ lately and don't move in such auspicious circles so I can't contradict or verify where their parts are from. I've just got bottles for my portapack so I'll stick with that for a while yet but if a Kemppi, Lincoln or Miller did come up at the right price I would be very tempted.


mangogrooveworkshop - 7/11/06 at 01:48 AM

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/welder-shop


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907 - 7/11/06 at 08:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I think Miller's production facilities are a bit more advanced than that.
I don't doubt they are getting parts from China, that's where most electronic components are coming from these days isn't it? Miller and Lincoln are built in America and Kemppi OY are built in Finland and are more highly featured than cheap inverters from China. Ask 907 if he'll swap his Miller DX for a Chinese one and cash I haven't been in the Miller corporation HQ lately and don't move in such auspicious circles so I can't contradict or verify where their parts are from. I've just got bottles for my portapack so I'll stick with that for a while yet but if a Kemppi, Lincoln or Miller did come up at the right price I would be very tempted.




Hi


IMHO you have to ask yourself 3 questions. (This applies to anything mechanical or electrical)


1.

Will it do all I require of it?

2.

Is it likely to go wrong?

3.

Can I get the parts if it does?



I bought a Miller because they promise that they can supply parts for ANY Miller welder.

Couldn't afford a new one so I bought second hand.

Paul G

p.s. A word of advice for inverters.

After you finish welding, leave it switched on for 10 mins to allow the fan to cool it down.


Syd Bridge - 7/11/06 at 09:00 AM

I'd go with a Miller every time. Been around for as long as I have, and have a reputation of reliability and good service.

If you want to know what to buy, have a look in the door of any large fabrication company using TIG's. You'll see mostly those mentioned above by others. Miller, Lincoln, Kemppi..............and most, if not all, will be transformer types, not inverters.

Cheers,
Syd.


NS Dev - 7/11/06 at 12:56 PM

Will second those points.

I spent £525 this year on my TIG machine, which is wired in to 240v single phase and is an ESAB machine (swedish built and having taken the panels off, is built like a tank inside!!!! )

It is water cooled, uses indistrial torch bits which are dirt cheap s/h and easy to get hold of, came with foot pedal etc etc and will do AC and HF so can weld ally.

Both Murex and Esab do similar machines that crop up regularly on ebay in the £500 region. They are really designed for 415v single phase but swap 1 wire on the transformer tapping as per instruction in the freely downloadable instruction manual and its fine on 240v