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What is good value in tube notchers at the moment?
mr henderson - 24/9/08 at 09:41 AM

Need to do some round tube work soon, and I will need to do some tube notching (or bird's mouth cutting if you prefer).

There's nothing suitable on Ebay at the moment, and I'd prefer not to buy from the States unless there's nothing to be had from the UK.

Anybody know of anything? It needs to cut a 25mm radius notch (to fit onto 50mm tube) BTW

John


andyharding - 24/9/08 at 10:21 AM

Round file 99p on ebay:-


SeaBass - 24/9/08 at 10:34 AM

Best thing I've ever seen...



wilkingj - 24/9/08 at 10:44 AM

use the cardboard / toilet roll trick and cut the end to match the joint. then slip over the tube, mark out and notch up the tube.

I have seen a home made one, using some steel rods and plastic drain pipe tubes.
The rods form a sort of circular profiling Comb affair (between the two plastic tubes), which you offer up to the point where you want the notch. They move and form around the tube you are welding to.
The you use the formed rods to mark out on the end of the tube you want to cut.


Or...
http://www.chesteruk.net/store/tube_notcher.htm

Same thing from then USA but only $54)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42324


There is plenty of articles and stuff on forums if you do a google search.

have fun..


Mr Whippy - 24/9/08 at 11:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Best thing I've ever seen...





well smart that but I bet it is pricey


mr henderson - 24/9/08 at 11:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
use the cardboard / toilet roll trick and cut the end to match the joint. then slip over the tube, mark out and notch up the tube.

I have seen a home made one, using some steel rods and plastic drain pipe tubes.
The rods form a sort of circular profiling Comb affair (between the two plastic tubes), which you offer up to the point where you want the notch. They move and form around the tube you are welding to.
The you use the formed rods to mark out on the end of the tube you want to cut.


Or...
http://www.chesteruk.net/store/tube_notcher.htm

Same thing from then USA but only $54)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42324


There is plenty of articles and stuff on forums if you do a google search.

have fun..



I did indeed do a Google search but what I really want to do is to buy a tube notcher rather than to read about them

Unfortunately the Chester tools people don't have any, and Harbor Freight don't seem to export to the UK, so I'm still in the market if anyone knows of any other sources (ideallyin the UK)

Thanks

John


locoR1 - 24/9/08 at 11:21 AM

All you want is a thin 1mm cutting disc in your angle grinder and download the tubemiter program from the first post on the mig welding forum here:http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=791

Did my roll cage tubes using it works a treat angles and different tube sizes no problem.


adithorp - 24/9/08 at 11:35 AM

Frosts do one. Not cheap though.

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8470&frostProductName=Tube+Notcher+%28without+tools%29&catID=13&subCatID=19&FrostCat= Bodywork&FrostSubcat=Machines

adrian


Agriv8 - 24/9/08 at 11:47 AM

have a look here

Northern tool US

they have a UK branch but they dont apear to list them ( but could possibly get you one ) worth an email ?

regards

Agriv8


mr henderson - 24/9/08 at 11:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Frosts do one. Not cheap though.

http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8470&frostProductName=Tube+Notcher+%28without+tools%29&catID=13&subCatID=19&FrostCat= Bodywork&FrostSubcat=Machines

adrian


I don't think that one does angles?

John


mr henderson - 24/9/08 at 11:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by locoR1
All you want is a thin 1mm cutting disc in your angle grinder and download the tubemiter program from the first post on the mig welding forum here:http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=791

Did my roll cage tubes using it works a treat angles and different tube sizes no problem.


I do have that program, and will probably use it if I can't get what I want. It's just that I expect to be doing a fair few of these so it's worth a bit of investment.

Thanks

John


Minicooper - 24/9/08 at 11:49 AM

This is where I bought mine, nicely made and quite substantial, more expensive than the cheaper ones on ebay but a better quality machine

http://www.rollcentre.co.uk/rollcentre/html/rollcage_additions.html

Cheers
David


Paul TigerB6 - 24/9/08 at 11:50 AM

Another one here - does angles up to 60deg and up to 2" pipe - £150

linky

Ha typical - David beat me to it by less than a minute!!

[Edited on 24/9/08 by Paul TigerB6]


Richard Quinn - 24/9/08 at 12:28 PM

The Chester UK one is pretty good (and good value). Did they give you any indication as to whether they would get them back in stock?


nitram38 - 24/9/08 at 01:08 PM

I have the chester one. I bought it for the MotaLeira and never used it!
I found it easier to hold the end of the tube agaist the other and mark with a marker pen, then cut the curves out with a worn grinding disc (layered paper type) until it fit.
It is just as much hassle trying to get the tube notcher to be at the correct angle as it is to do them by hand.
If I had 100 identical ends then I would use the notcher................


Minicooper - 24/9/08 at 01:29 PM

You need an angle indicator nitram, makes it very easy

Cheers
David


nitram38 - 24/9/08 at 02:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Minicooper
You need an angle indicator nitram, makes it very easy

Cheers
David


Too late now!


Peteff - 24/9/08 at 03:14 PM

A drum sander with some 40 grit sleeves in the diameter you need.


IDONTBELEIVEIT - 24/9/08 at 05:30 PM

correct size holesaw and drill through the pipe two birdsmouths for the price of one


mr henderson - 24/9/08 at 06:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by IDONTBELEIVEIT
correct size holesaw and drill through the pipe two birdsmouths for the price of one


Easier said than done, most tube notchers use a holesaw anyway, problem is to get the hole in the right place


JoelP - 24/9/08 at 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
quote:
Originally posted by IDONTBELEIVEIT
correct size holesaw and drill through the pipe two birdsmouths for the price of one


Easier said than done, most tube notchers use a holesaw anyway, problem is to get the hole in the right place


indeed, bloody hard work. In fact if you're doing an angle, i'd say impossible. It snags far too much with a pillar drill.


Neil P - 24/9/08 at 06:22 PM

Demon Tweeks have one at £72. Adjusts to 45deg.

Notcher

Neil


Triton - 25/9/08 at 03:00 PM

Tube notchers using holesaws will be a bit hit 'n miss. what you really want is a tube mill using milling cutters. Even then they are damn scary to use especially on thin guage tube!
I could never justify the daft cost so used the "shed method" mark it out and use a flap disc in a grinder to do it. Easy to make a template afterwards.


mr henderson - 25/9/08 at 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Neil P
Demon Tweeks have one at £72. Adjusts to 45deg.

Notcher



Neil


Good find, looks good too. Shame about the plus VAT though, it's actually £85. Might well end up getting it though

John

[Edited on 25/9/08 by mr henderson]