http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=12432

what??

Ah Cyprus, 2 weeks, no more speed cameras...



UK is screwed...

I think that is a terrible report.
Surely they must be fitted every 400m and not 400yds - we must have grounds for taking them to the European courts for not using metric intervals????

I must say the whole subject of roads and speeds infuriates me. Ive tried driving at 70 on the motorway. Need to use middle lane most of the time to prevent fast lane jockies from slamming into you / blinding you with full beam / undertaking and squeezing into the regulation 3 sec gap in front. Middle lanes are more nasty cos you have 56mph wagons pulling out on you and then the fast lane jockies doing a swift one around Mr70MPH in the fast lane. And to top it all we have speed cameras to worry about. Flipping nightmare.

well if theres anymore suicide bombers hopefully they will visit this control centre

Bit extreme Daz but I know what you mean.

I agree

UK is totally FUCKT.

For road signs and distances the law demands the use of Christian units

I drove through the set of cameras on the M42 last weekend at 99.9 mph (dont want an instant ban) and a huge sign at the side of the road said 'Time trial ahead' well I thought a time trial was always something one should do quickly. So if I get caught for speeding that will be my excuse - the signs told me to do it! its all down to interpretation i reckon.

One (that's the royal one, not the number) has to wonder exactly why so many troops died in the second world war... Wouldn't it have just been easier to give in to a police state then instead of building one from scratch?


Canada here I come...do they have SVA in canada?

You've got to hand it to the idiots that think these schemes up. I mean it must take between 6 and 7 seconds to come up with such utter crap. They can't have put any real thought into it, cost benefit analysis etc etc.

So they spend 6 or 7 seconds actually working and spend the other 37.5 hrs a week in meetings or sitting around doing nowt and they get to keep their jobs.

Can you imagine every 400 yards along every country lane a massive big post with a camera on the top. Nope, neither can I. Simply put, don't speed on the really wide straight roads, speed on the really narrow twisty ones, it's loads more fun!!

Mike

So if these cameras are to be put up every 400meters then , traveling at 70mph you would pass 4.69 of them every minute!!!! Or one every 12.7 seconds!

Its getting out of hand!!

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Originally posted by DarrenW
I think that is a terrible report.
Surely they must be fitted every 400m and not 400yds - we must have grounds for taking them to the European courts for not using metric intervals????

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'Sorry I ran over that OAP officer, but I was too busy looking at my speedo and checking that I wasn't driving faster than the speed limit'

They say theres a lot of people get run over on the roads every day, but unfortunatly it seems the ones that think its better to look at your speedo, not the road survive.

FFS not more sh*t..... this country is getting worse to live in...making it more and more like total sense to leg it out.

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For road signs and distances the law demands the use of Christian units

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I was watching the local news last night, Cleveland, Ohio and they were telling how the installation of the new Gatso redlight cameras were going to save us all. There was something sinister about how the cameras would PREDICT if you were going to run the light. Not actually wait until the light turned RED before taking the picture.

what utter utter bullsh!t imaginge the cost of a camera (at least several thousand each + optical fibre infrastructure) every 400yards along every motorway, they would have to up our income tax by 5000% atleast.
I have been working on a contract for the M27 for the software to control 29 second generation CCTV cameras and this cost alot!, this was just the pilot scheme and we are currently building the software/hardware for around birmingham and i can tell you the exact lat/long of every camera that will be in that area, and it is no where near 400 yards, and their is no ANPR software either, its purley for traffic observation not prosecution.

[Edited on 17/11/05 by Gav]

I know what our fibre hybrid cost to build and we have not even touched a large chunk of the country. Its enough to bankrupt a small country.......unless the would use ntl/telewest and bt to carry the data......

[Edited on 17-11-05 by mangogrooveworkshop]

I was at a traffic exhibition 2 years ago and speaking to Siemens director.
He said the police were trying desperately hard to get their hands on the trafficmaster camera system.

You've seen them, the small blue camera boxes on poles at side of road and on motorway bridges. They have ANPR and are linked to a central control. They take a numberplate and then monitor it for it's next passage through the system, doing this multiple times to get an overall picture. It then determines whether there is a holdup on that route.
It does not use this for speed trapping BUT the police know it can!

It has been pushed at top level by ACPO to get this private system under government control. It is ready made and works right now.

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Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop.unless the would use ntl/telewest and bt to carry the data......

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Originally posted by Rob Lane
It has been pushed at top level by ACPO to get this private system under government control. It is ready made and works right now.

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I was very nearly speed gunned in cyprus a couple years back.

atb

steve

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Originally posted by G.Man
Ah Cyprus, 2 weeks, no more speed cameras...



UK is screwed...

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For road signs and distances the law demands the use of Christian units

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it just means we will have to drivre absolutely everywhere at 186mph

unless theyre cleverer then the current cameras

And here's why. They are, in my opinion, symbolic of a government hopelessly out of touch. That on its own wouldn't be so bad but they also represent a huge waste of money, our money, which is always justified on the false premise of road safety which statistics prove to be false.

What's happening down my street while this is going on? Let's see...

My neighbour has had a breeze block chucked through his car window.
My other neighbour has had his shed burgled.
Across the road has had his car torched.
A man chased a six year old girl home from school with his thingy hanging out of his trousers. He's flashed at women before, now he's chasing school girls.

Does anything get done about this? No.

Oh and I forgot to mention MrsC and the new baby getting used for darts practice by druggies throwing needles at them.

Of course that's just crime. There's also pensions gone to pot, lousy equipment for the forces, the NHS in crisis, schools churning out illiterate morons that mysteriously seem to have more paper qualifications than ever (don't get me started on A levels, a complete national disgrace!). The list just goes on and on.

So there are lots of serious problems to sort out. No shortage at all in fact.

Now does anyone down our road worry about speed crazed motorists? No.

Anyone at work? No.

Have accident figure been driven down by Gatsos? No.

So there's a big case to spend money on lots of real problems and not much of a case for scameras? Yes.

So what do we get?

Scameras. That's what we get. Everywhere.

And we get them while everything that we actually pay the government and the police and the courts to do doesn't seem to get done as well as it used to be when we were actually taxed less.

ahhh, but according to the met cheif yesterday, we need to decide the kinda police we want. Seems like the choice was catching terrorists or burglars.

We dont have a problem with terrorists in rural northants.

atb

steve

nor here in sunni leeds (no pun intended, if you spotted it!)

sounds harsh but terrorism kills a lot fewer people than much less publicised events (people usually quote road accidents, but it could be many other things)

im not saying that terrorists shouldnt be hunted down, but if police chiefs start to use them as an excuse for poor service cos they are putting resources elsewhere, then thats a bit crap.

Isnt the police funding set by local council? thats daft in itself.

atb

steve

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Originally posted by steve_gus
ahhh, but according to the met cheif yesterday, we need to decide the kinda police we want. Seems like the choice was catching terrorists or burglars.

We dont have a problem with terrorists in rural northants.

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September the 11th happened before the USA and UK did bugger all!!!!!!!



the alternative argument is that Iraq could have turned into an agressor with atomic weapons..... if they dont have respect for their own lives in suicide bombings, why would they refrain from atomic warfare?

We wont know what would have happened if we have done nothing - perhaps just postponed the day when Iraq decided that they didnt like christian countries...

atb

steve

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i dont know if this is related but around here on the roads there are square sections that have been doug up and re tarmact and with a box next to them ie like with traffic lights to see if any cars are coming but there are just in the middle of the road with no traffic lights or anything around, no the goverment wouldnt dig the road up unless it was for thier beniit and so could these be used for the new number plates?


Phil