RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 01:46 PM |
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WANTED: Alloy Cortina Uprights
I need a a pair URGENTLY. Cash waiting!
Rally Design are out of stock  and I can't find a supplier.
If anyone knows anyone etc etc 
Cheers,
Raz
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mookaloid
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 01:51 PM |
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MNR?
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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TimC
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 02:02 PM |
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MNR own Raceleda these days...
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 02:24 PM |
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Yep, I phoned MNR but their prices are way above what RD where selling them for - nearly double at £370 in fact 
Even Westfield are miles cheaper at £295 so I might go with them unless I have misunderstood their specs.
Initially I assumed that the kits were different but apparently not so unless MNR sharpen their pencils I will wait for RD to get some stock (any day
now apparently) Their price is under £200 so it is possibly worth the wait
Jeeez these little blighters have gone up in price recently - even the second hand ones. No wonder people are copying them and hiking up the prices
[Edited on 27-7-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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Agriv8
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 02:37 PM |
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RD no longer souce these from MNR/Raceleda !!!!!
Would say alot more but not my place so MMMMmmmmmMMmmmmmmmm MMMm.
Regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
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tree full of a*seholes .............
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 02:42 PM |
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Nope, I gathered that was the case. However I do know that RD have found another source now, so hopefully the prices will get a bit more
reasonable.
[Edited on 27-7-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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tks
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 02:54 PM |
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mhhh i looked at locostparts.net
and found this:
Raceleda Sierra Upright Kit its priced at 199.75 pounds.
the cortina ones are 329pounds.
sow already less pricey then on the MNR site. (yes i know that MNR site links to locostparts site..)
Tks
p.d.
Notice: Locostparts will be on a skeleton staff until the 27th of June - Marc is getting married!
Dunno looks a bit out of date anyway..
[Edited on 27/7/07 by tks]
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 03:10 PM |
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Thanks tks, but I can't use the Sierra ones.
Something's not quite right there. The manufacturer selling for more than the distributor? £329 from Locostparts unless that is an out of date
price.
[Edited on 27-7-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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mookaloid
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 03:41 PM |
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Often the case, Companies giving low prices but have no stock.......
Companies with higher prices but can actually supply.......
Good luck
Mark
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 04:09 PM |
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Just noticed that MNR also do a 'budget' rose jointed steel upright set for £225. The kit apparently includes adapter pins for the rose
joints which can presumeably be optional (normally £125) No pics on their website though
Does that mean that the uprights on their own are £100 then??
[Edited on 27-7-07 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 04:27 PM |
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OK I'm now officially confused
I just spoke to Chris at MNR and he told me that all the website prices are WRONG. THEY ARE DOUBLE THAT!!!
Apparently the website designer made a mistake and the prices are for ONE SIDE ONLY!! That make a pair of 'budget' steel uprights £310
I'm going to have a lie down now .......
Cheers,
Raz
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marc n
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 04:45 PM |
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i was told that rally design had had a copy made and are now having them manufactured in china, hence why they would be cheaper plus im pretty sure
that the upright kit they sell doesnt include brake brackets to attach calipers too they are extra
best regards
marc
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marc n
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 04:52 PM |
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just checked now and price from rd is 297 inc vat and we are £330 inc vat and carrige i think ( will have to check tomorrow to be sure )
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 05:01 PM |
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Thanks Marc, I might have been given the wrong price from RD then - £195 sounded rather cheap but I will have to check on Monday now as RD are now
closed until then.
As a matter of interest, I have heard that the alloy ones are a bit iffy over 750kg - can you confirm this?
Cheers,
Raz
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marc n
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 06:16 PM |
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i wouldnt use them on anything heavier than 750 kg we get loads of people wanting to fit them on triumph gt6 s and other historic cars but refuse to
sell them as they where never supposed to be used on anything other than 7 type cars
i checked the prices in the r d catalogue so i think they are correct ???,
best regards
marc
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 07:11 PM |
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Not trying to be contentious, and i have no first hand knowledge of this, but have heard of instances of the westy cast uprights failing when fitted
with powerful calipers,soft pads and slicks. The tale was told to me by someone closely associated with hillclimbing, so i guess they were fitted to a
hill car and therefore being given real stick. Could be an urban myth, but if it is true it maybe gives an indication that ally is not so good when
pushed or abused.
In a road car i would be worried about the stresses inflicted by the rotten state of the roads.
Al.
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tks
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 07:26 PM |
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mhhh..
i now have spotted this:
linky
unther in the left corner you can select either sierra or cortina??
200pounds looks feasable then...
Tks
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RazMan
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 11:04 PM |
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Thanks guys - it is looking more and more like I need to think about the steel uprights as the cars I am building will be on the limit weight wise.
Cheers,
Raz
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 09:03 AM |
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Just for a laugh, answer me this...
Have any of the aluminium alloy uprights being marketed, been tested and certified for road use by an authorised independant authority yet?
Do any of the suppliers provide a copy of that test certificate, if it should exist?
SVA and MoT will start picking these things up before too much longer.
Cheers,
Syd.
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RazMan
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 09:53 AM |
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But then surely every other re-manufactured component would come under the same ruling wouldn't it? Wheels, racks, brakes, hubs etc etc. I
really don't think that will happen ..... for a while 
Cheers,
Raz
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 02:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
But then surely every other re-manufactured component would come under the same ruling wouldn't it? Wheels, racks, brakes, hubs etc etc. I
really don't think that will happen ..... for a while
We're not talking about remanufactured uprights here, but supposed new castings.
The specific alloy used is of utmost importance, and even moreso the heat treatment.
One of the most common heat treatable alloys is LM25, but if not heat treated properly, you may as well be using a good strong cheddar cheese, for all
of the good they'd be.
Without the certificate of compliance, these aluminium uprights being peddled about are 'accidents waiting to happen', and will.
Cheers,
Syd.
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tks
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 04:45 PM |
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i'm with Syd...
bit by bit everyday we are letting the old famous way of making your own sportscar behind us....believe me...
what i just said will be the base for the rulez of tomorrow...
its just waiting on the first big accident what could happen and then the wheel starts spinning....
Tks
[Edited on 28/7/07 by tks]
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RazMan
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 06:53 PM |
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I see your point but I am unaware of any BS standard that is required for these components so I can't really comment but I would have thought if
anyone is going to invest in the moulds and engineering expertise to make these things, then they would have to be fit for purpose at the very least.
Is there ANY legislation covering this area or are we talking hyperthetically?
Cheers,
Raz
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 09:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
I see your point but I am unaware of any BS standard that is required for these components so I can't really comment but I would have thought if
anyone is going to invest in the moulds and engineering expertise to make these things, then they would have to be fit for purpose at the very least.
Is there ANY legislation covering this area or are we talking hyperthetically?
From China? Get real! They will sell any old crap to turn a shilling.
That is the voice of bitter experience.
China>Shipper>Customs>Me>Bin! 
edit; OK dummy back in. It all depends on quality control, by the vendor, at this end
[Edited on 28/7/07 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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marc n
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| posted on 28/7/07 at 11:24 PM |
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all our uprights are cast in the correct material and heat treated correctly by an iso registered company who also do work for may blue chip companies
hence the price
cheers
marc
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