thomas4age
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| posted on 21/3/08 at 10:22 AM |
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the lexus desinged 1uzfe is very much like the volvo engine, yamaha was involved in that to.... the lotus link has been to yamaha via toyota/lexus for
a few yars now
wouldn't be surprized if there's a link between the too.
nevertheless that engine is also very nice indeed volvosport.
I would like to point out that the 1uzfe I have is the 1992 1 gen and they have evolved wuite a bit since, they are now availeble upto 4.7L with
VVT.... 5.2L hybrid is in the make
Grtz Thomas
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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SPYDER
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| posted on 21/3/08 at 06:39 PM |
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Aerosam has the right idea. 3 litre BMW. Over 200hp. Question for Aerosam,... did it come with a manual box or where did you get one to suit?
Geoff
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NS Dev
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| posted on 21/3/08 at 11:10 PM |
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not familiar with the volvo lump that volvorsport refers to, that does sound good.
Apart from that, i'm afraid that the chevy beats all comers.
The Ls1 is lighter than ANY of the 4 cam v8's, and actually lighter than the rover when dressed as well!!
it is cheapish and makes 375hp as std
For tuning further, go back a step to the last of the line high output iron block smallblock chevys, they are 325hp ish stock and on a £2k budget can
make 400hp.
BIG problem with the 4 cam v8s is the sheer size of the bloody things.
I have a BMW 740 v8 now and I have been looking for some time at putting another one on a manual box into an old E28 5 series, but its soooo tight
(considering they have a big engine bay!!) that any maintainance is impossible.
in the 7 series its stupidly tight to work on.
[Edited on 21/3/08 by NS Dev]
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Doug68
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| posted on 22/3/08 at 01:25 PM |
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The 1UZ-FE is basically a 700mm cube.
Which I don't think is overly big.
With the fruit on it weighs ~200kg.
The prices for them is Australia are stupidly cheap at A$1400 delivered for mine.
The only drama over here is getting them through emissions in a kit car.
Who's to say where engines really come from today? The history of the things is so convoluted and the marketing BS on top so thick its hard to
tell who really did what. For example I know Ricardo down in sunny Sussex did work on the 3rd gen of the Toyota V8
family.
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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MK Charlie
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| posted on 22/3/08 at 06:51 PM |
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There's a company near me that build race cars and engines etc... and they have just made a v8 using 2 R1 engines and apparantly that is 600bhp!
Would suggest that it isn't very locost though.
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thomas4age
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| posted on 23/3/08 at 06:32 AM |
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NS dev, not to be rude but bang for buck a 1uzfe beats any SBC or SBF on the block.
on that buget you're talking 600hp+ 1uzfe have been build. which are lighter than anything chevy or ford.
about the size, have you ever seen one in the flesh? it's a tiny little thing on the outside. nothing wide like a BMW or VAG.
measurement piccies in my ablum.
Grtz Thomas
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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Doug68
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| posted on 23/3/08 at 09:06 AM |
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From what I can find out LS1 weigh 390lb (177kg) the invoiced shipping weight on my 1UZFE was 220kg including the pallet, complete induction system,
stock exhaust manifolds & cats. So I doubt there's stuff all difference between the two once fitted in the vehicle.
A quick look reveals 1UZ's for for less than 700 quid what other modern V8 can
be bought for that sort of money?
Bike based V8's may look good on the bog wall but they cost a fortune. Unless you have a specific racing class or some such that you're
building an engine to fit in then it's just pee & wind to bring them up as serious options for a road car.
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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aerosam
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| posted on 23/3/08 at 09:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SPYDER
Aerosam has the right idea. 3 litre BMW. Over 200hp. Question for Aerosam,... did it come with a manual box or where did you get one to suit?
Geoff
manual box came with it dude. It's a 1993 530i I don't know if they fitted the manual box to anythiong else. The bigger 4 litre only ever
had the auto box. Hope this helps. Sam.
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C10CoryM
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| posted on 23/3/08 at 04:42 PM |
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The "best" V8 here for the money is definitely the LSx engines. You can find a decent LS1 with a nice 6spd trans for as cheap as any
other good V8. Comes stock with 400bhp (usually around 320rwhp) and the potential is huge. If you dont mind the weight, you can get LQ4 engine for
less (iron block, can handle major power).
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thomas4age
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| posted on 26/3/08 at 07:38 AM |
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all depends on location!
I can get BMW V12's cheaper than a 1uzfe in holland.
but in the UK it's the other way round..
USA and CAN will have that on the domestic engines also.... hence LS1
over here 1uz.
Grtz Thomas
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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tobym
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| posted on 10/7/08 at 07:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug68
From what I can find out LS1 weigh 390lb (177kg) the invoiced shipping weight on my 1UZFE was 220kg including the pallet, complete induction system,
stock exhaust manifolds & cats. So I doubt there's stuff all difference between the two once fitted in the vehicle.
A quick look reveals 1UZ's for for less than 700 quid what other modern V8 can
be bought for that sort of money?
Bike based V8's may look good on the bog wall but they cost a fortune. Unless you have a specific racing class or some such that you're
building an engine to fit in then it's just pee & wind to bring them up as serious options for a road car.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, what front-engine RWD manual gearbox options, are there, available for the 1UZFE ?
Cheers, Toby
[Edited on 10/7/08 by tobym]
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mr henderson
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| posted on 10/7/08 at 11:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tobym
Sorry to resurrect this thread, what front-engine RWD manual gearbox options, are there, available for the 1UZFE ?
Cheers, Toby
As always, the devil is in the details. And details like 'which gearbox can I use?' are details than can make a cheap engine into an
expensive package.
One of the problems with bigger, modern engines is that the people who can afford to buy them in the new cars they are intended for are not interested
in pushing on clutch pedals and operating gearlevers every time a gear change is called for.
The cars into which these sorts of engines are fitted, even if they are RWD which many are not, hardly ever have manual gearboxes fitted even if they
are an option.
Personally I think the way forward is to use an automatic gearbox. They are very suitable for lightweight sportscars. The only problem there is that
many (most even) are controlled by the engine ECU. Still, if that can be overcome then a jolly nice car could be built, at a good price, using this
type of engine and with an auto box (most of them have some kind of manual over-ride too)
John
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nz_climber
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| posted on 12/7/08 at 04:52 AM |
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The 1UZ can be fitted to a few gearboxes, toyota w58's and the supra gearbox (not sure of the code) but down here can buy bell housings for
both..
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thomas4age
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| posted on 13/7/08 at 11:17 PM |
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toyota Supra W58 or W55 boxes
Ford BW T5
Tremec T5
various 4wd toyota boxes
Renault UN1
Porsche G50
VW Bus box
+ others all bolt to the 1uz with addition of an adaptorplate or bellhousing
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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mr henderson
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| posted on 14/7/08 at 07:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by thomas4age
toyota Supra W58 or W55 boxes
Ford BW T5
Tremec T5
various 4wd toyota boxes
Renault UN1
Porsche G50
VW Bus box
+ others all bolt to the 1uz with addition of an adaptorplate or bellhousing
Of course! the question is where to get or how to make the required adaptor plate or bellhousing!
John
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Barry Ashcroft
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| posted on 18/7/08 at 08:27 PM |
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Big V8 in a small fiat sounds like my type of fun
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tobym
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| posted on 19/7/08 at 06:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Barry Ashcroft
Big V8 in a small fiat sounds like my type of fun
such as a barchetta? are they RWD?
I'm thinking about MX5/MR2, possibly
[Edited on 19/7/08 by tobym]
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cymtriks
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 09:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
You would be better of with a 3.9 Rover V8. The engine is lighter and a gearbox will be easier to find.
The Chevy may pull a cinquecento to bits!
+ It takes a lot of cooling
Just My thoughts.
Paul
Lighter than what?
The RV8 is only light when compared to the massive iron blocked stuff that was around when it was first put into service. Compared to modern V8s it is
actually a very heavy engine.
A full dressed RV8 weighs well over 400lbs, an LS1 weighs circa 450lbs and has an extra 1.9 liters over a RV8 3.9.
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aerosam
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| posted on 24/7/08 at 07:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SPYDER
Aerosam has the right idea. 3 litre BMW. Over 200hp. Question for Aerosam,... did it come with a manual box or where did you get one to suit?
Geoff
Sorry took me so long to reply to this but it came with a manual box in the car - an E34 530i I don't think they fitted the manual to the 4.0 as
280bhp may have been too much for it.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/7/08 at 08:47 AM |
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Just to say it again.......CHEVY
You won't regret it.
Whatever anybody else says, use a chevy.
I used to argue the case with my mate at ultima over the various lexus, audi, BMW etc v8's....................
Then I came to my senses when I saw them side by side, the chevy LS engines (and the old small blocks) are TINY by comparison to the euro and jap vee
engines.
No contest, sorry.
If you break something on a chevy (which you won't) then its pence to replace. On a jap or euro v8 its new engine time
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thomas4age
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| posted on 24/7/08 at 10:22 AM |
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since when are chevy LSx parts cheap???
+ you won't break a Lexus engine also
+ the lexus engine is about 5 times cheaper to buy in the first place
+ I haven't seen a chevy which is tuned to 1uzfe territory make emmissions test
+ steel block chevy's is a deffinate NO GO it's 2008 remember.....
nevertheless if my wallet would let me I'd have an LS2 rather than a 1uz. 550bhp on just a cam and omex sounds good
compare a 1uz to an ls1 (not the later versions)
6 bolt mains, steel forged crank shaft and a redline of about 8000RPM which is well into chevy LS7 figures for a fraction of the cost. and when
something in an ls7 breaks..... time to get a new mortage.
all titainium stuff in there to do what a 1uz can do on steel internals.
well build NA 1uz also thumb out near 600bhp on 4 liters.
grtz Thomas
If Lucas made guns, Wars wouldn't start either.
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