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Author: Subject: reverse gearbox + overdrive coming soon from the states
ceebmoj

posted on 20/8/12 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
I'm also still interested in a sensibly prices reverse box with over drive.
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rost

posted on 20/8/12 at 01:59 PM Reply With Quote
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sales.powergearperformance.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for the following names:
www.intimatepleasure4u.com , intimatepleasure4u.com



lol, looks like you are doing business in other areas too





Charlie don't surf!

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yahshuatwo

posted on 24/8/12 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
My wife sells adult women stuff, so both sites are on the same server at home. microsoft iis 6 doesnt support multiple ssl sl
Site on one server.

Gearbox specs:

1:1 forward
1:1.25 overdrive
Reverse
Weights 15lbs
6"x5x"x11". (WxHxL)

But could you access my powergear site?

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bobinspain

posted on 24/8/12 at 06:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by yahshuatwo
My wife sells adult women stuff.

Can't wait for the bluff Aussie reply. C'mon Nev, don't let us down.

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Davegtst

posted on 24/8/12 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote
What lube do you use in your box?
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yahshuatwo

posted on 24/8/12 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Standard bike engine oil 10w40-20w50.
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bobinspain

posted on 25/8/12 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Davegtst
What lube do you use in your box?


Amazing Dave! And they say Americans don't appreciate irony.

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scootz

posted on 25/8/12 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote






It's Evolution Baby!

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Davegtst

posted on 25/8/12 at 07:53 PM Reply With Quote
Took a while
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matt_gsxr

posted on 25/8/12 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by bobinspain
Amazing Dave! And they say Americans don't appreciate irony.


I think is mostly high grade steel and carbon fibre, not at all irony.

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Davegtst

posted on 25/8/12 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
Get your coat matt, that was rubbish.
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Peteff

posted on 25/8/12 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Davegtst
What lube do you use in your box?


Which site were you looking at ? It could be 10w40 or KY





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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ceebmoj

posted on 26/8/12 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
How much is it? all I can see on the web sight is componet prices
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yahshuatwo

posted on 1/9/12 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
Its gonna be right at $1100 usd , no more..
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Davegtst

posted on 1/9/12 at 03:08 PM Reply With Quote
Is that posted to the UK?
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yahshuatwo

posted on 6/9/12 at 04:08 PM Reply With Quote
posted to the UK?

shipping will be extra.. this is the base price for the unit... the prospective buyer will need to buy input/output flanges

Ryan

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yahshuatwo

posted on 12/6/13 at 02:45 AM Reply With Quote
im in the final stages of development R-Falcon forward, reverse , overdrive
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Davegtst

posted on 12/6/13 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
Have you got any recent pictures or other new info?
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yahshuatwo

posted on 12/6/13 at 03:36 PM Reply With Quote
havent put any new photos up yet but will do so this week. specs are updated on the website when you navigate to the gearbox

https://sales.powergearperformance.com

[Edited on 12/6/13 by yahshuatwo]

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yahshuatwo

posted on 26/6/13 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
Update:

*Overdrive gears have been shipped to be heat-treated (induction hardened); I'm waiting the status / shipping date.


* Any BEC owners in the North/South Carolina? I'm looking for a tester immediately. I have a special incentive for the tester.

Over the past several days I've been thinking about the reverse unit and pricing once again. I developed a business model that supports a reasonable initial price-point and offer services that hopefully will make potential buyers happy in the long-term. So I will overview the
R-Falcon features and business model:

R-Falcon Features:

*1:1 Forward, 1:1.25 overdrive and reverse (dog-meshing for forward, overdrive is just gear-to-gear - doesn't support dynamic shifting on the fly)

*Aluminum bearing housings /w carbon-fiber/Kevlar cover

*Epoxy sealed unit - this guarantees no leaks after some unsuccessful attempts to use O-ring seal on the CF/Kevlar cover to the aluminum housings. Purchaser/owner will not be able to disassemble the unit due to the epoxy sealing which is further explained in my business model below.

* Supports up to 250hp/120 ft torque when using the Robinson Industries Heavy-Duty output shafts (28mm x 13 spline vs the oem 25mm x 13 spline) - I contacted Bill Robinson about becoming an authorized reseller of the heavy-duty output shaft and we're going to partner-up. The only issue is finding the prop adapter to match the bigger spline profile. They make the counter-sprocket for the bikes but I need to source the prop adapter - I may have a source in mind.

I recommend purchasing a resilient torque shaft for the front (engine to unit) to mitigate the BEC "clank" experience. I've driven my car with a FR2000 Eurotech box, my prototype and the R-Falcon; I still seem to have that experience occasionally regardless of the reversing unit.

Business Model:
1. Buyers can purchase a new reverse unit for $1100.00 (£717.64). The units include everything necessary to integrate with the BEC car except for two prop flange adapters (separate purchase).

2. (Optionally) buyer may purchase a gearbox "rebuild kit" services $250.00 (£163.10) + shipping. This will allow the buyer to have the unit service rebuilt by us due to bearing wear or other issues. It kind of gives you a warranty/insurance. $250.00 will include:
    Inspection of the unit
    New bearings pressed in
    New CF/Kevlar cover
    New oil drain/fill bungs
    New shift mount boss oil seal
    Original shift mount boss will be retained
    Original fill/drain bolts retained
    Original shift lever retained


Box is resealed, tested and shipped back to customer. Customer needs to retain original shipping box/crate.

I think this model is fair and is competitive in pricing with the "other" units out there. Again, the rebuild service is optional and can be purchased anytime, and it does allow one to extent the service life of the unit, protecting the initial $1100.00 investment. The "guarantee no leak" is the main directive behind the new business model

Finally, we will not offer refund/warranties on the unit (as other don’t offer due the nature the use) but we'll offer "No DOA (dead of arrive) time period" clause/terms of use.

Thanks,

Ryan

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Davegtst

posted on 26/6/13 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
Am I reading right that you can't change into overdrive while you are moving?
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yahshuatwo

posted on 26/6/13 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
Correct. I've done some prelimenary testing in attempt and its a hit or miss. Overdrive engagement isnt dog-mesh similar to bike shifting. Overdrive down to forward 1:1 is possible but from forward to overdrive will lock 95% of the time, especially at high rpms

Overdrive is intended to road crusing, foward 1:1 is normal as all the other reverse unit do.

Maybe I'll redesign the unit down the road to accommodate this feature.

I'm gonna try to post a youTube video tonight/tomorrow going through shifting of the box -- stay tuned..

Hats off to Chris Gamblin's Bike ratio /speed calculation tool! I modified it to include the R-Falcon reverse unit..
BEC ratios speed using reverse units


Ryan

[Edited on 26/6/13 by yahshuatwo]

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Custardpants

posted on 26/6/13 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
If you can't change into the overdrive on the roll it sounds like it needs some more development?
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yahshuatwo

posted on 26/6/13 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
Custardpants wrote:
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If you can't change into the overdrive on the roll it sounds like it needs some more development?



Not at this pricing point. The main driver behind the current design is to simply offer an overdrive gear in which Quaife, MNR nor Nova offer at the present time. The dynamic shifting required for overdrive will be considered, but just not in this release.

Again, my main objectives derived four years ago where as follows:

1) Develop a reversing solution which could potential be sold under $1000.00 USD . We're can possibly get under that pricing point once we tweek the manufacturing process and re-coupe the initial R&D costs

2) Offer a badly needed overdrive gear to: a) reduce crusing rpms/noise (better fuel effieciency ) , b) faster top-end



In the states it's hard to find a donor vehicle with a rear differential ratio < 3.62. 4.11 in a BEC at 1:1 in the reverse unit will be quicker
off the line but max out top-end around 110mph. 1990's Subaru Imprezas, Legacies and SVX offered these ratios in the US:
Impreza/WRX 3.89 expensive for the 3.89 from a WRX, 4.11
Legacy: 3.89 visious LSD (Turbo) Hard to find, 4.11
SVX 3.54 ( hard to find)
Others vehicles: mainly live axles with > 4.x ratio



I luckily found a 1992 Legacy Turbo with a 3.89 visious LSD back in 2003.

Price and feature compare the R-Falcon against the competitors and you'll see that we have a solid deal. Our product just hasnt been proven as of yet.

Cheers,

Ryan

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ceebmoj

posted on 26/6/13 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
do you have any pictures?
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