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MK9R

posted on 29/4/10 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
Flexible fibreglass

I had a shunt (or 3) on track last weekend, and the bonnet survived pretty well, purely down to the fact that the exhaust had heated up the bonnet so much it was very rubbery and flexible. When i came in the bonnet was all pushed up and crunched, but not cracked, as soon as i released the bonnet it sprang back into its correct shape. Before anyone says anything, I know i need to add some heatshield here and its on the list to do. But this has got me thinking, is there an additive or a special resin than means the fibreglass remains flexible. I have read that adding 5% acetone works, but wondered if there is a specific resin or additive for sale out there and if anyone has used it.



The side of the bonnet was pushed in about 30cm when i returned into the paddock, but it just popped out! If it had been hard it would have shattered to pieces





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RazMan

posted on 29/4/10 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
Generally speaking, the thinner the skin is, the more flexible it will be. Heat will also makes things move - leave your car in the direct sun and things really start moving around. It usually stabilises again when it cools though.
Painters put plasticiser into their paint to make it less liable to cracking - maybe there is some sort of wax additive (like flow coat) for fibreglass?





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Raz

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iank

posted on 29/4/10 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
Flexibility will also depend on the lay-up, i.e. whether chopped strand or mat is used, and what orientation mat's are applied.

I'm sure both CFS and East Coast would be able to advise.
http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/
http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/





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Neville Jones

posted on 29/4/10 at 08:30 AM Reply With Quote
To answer your direct question re plasticisers; Yes, they are available, but rarely used as they affect the heat deflection temperature (Tg)greatly.

Also, the low to average quality resins used by the vast majority of manufacturers, due to low price, have relatively low Tg's. Some as low as 45~50c. The good poly resins can be as high as 85~90c, but are twice the price and not far short of the price of the low end epoxies, which would be the preferred resin in this application.

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Nev.

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britishtrident

posted on 29/4/10 at 10:29 AM Reply With Quote
The resin matrix gets progressively stiffer/harder/more brittle as it ages.





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suparuss

posted on 1/5/10 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
ive done all my bodywork with normal loyds approved resin (ie- not cheap remixed stuff) and a lamination of about 3.5mm with alternating csm and twill weave. when i chop any excess off the panels, say a 2" wide strip 400mm long, i can bend it right round so the ends touch each other then it springs back, takes a fair bit of humph the break fibreglass if it is done properly, not need for additives.
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