55ant
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 12:28 PM |
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Wanted - Job
What do I do! Finished university last week with a degree in design, massively interested in sports, cars, being outside with a background in the
leisure industry, I’m churning through career websites but I don’t know what I’m looking for!!! Humph.
away from cars, now cycling and building TT bikes
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tomprescott
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 12:35 PM |
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I finish this week with a degree in business and accounting (although it covers HR, Project management, marketing, strategy etc...) I've
arranged a short internship with an acocuntancy firm to see if thats what will suit me, if it does great, if it doesn't I'll look
elsewhere. Good luck
[Edited on 24/5/10 by tomprescott]
A bird in the hand....
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carpmart
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 12:35 PM |
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Do nothing!
It seems to be what most young adults in my house are doing at the moment!
You only live once - make the most of it!
Radical Clubsport, Kwaker motor
'94 MX5 MK1, 1.8
F10 M5 - 600bhp Daily Hack 
Range Rover Sport - Wife's Car
Mercedes A class - Son's Car
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scootz
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 12:36 PM |
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If I could do it all again...
LINKY
[Edited on 24/5/10 by scootz]
It's Evolution Baby!
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boggle
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 12:59 PM |
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no offence but i wouldnt employ anyone who has a degree but no real world experience in their qualification...i have worked with too many graduates
who think they know what they are doing, but are complete idiots.....and they all want top dolla payments.....
still, good luck....may be worth trying places such as mclaren motorsport?
just because you are a character, doesnt mean you have character....
for all your bespoke parts, ali welding, waterjet, laser, folding, turning, milling, composite work, spraying, anodising and cad drawing....
u2u me for details
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carpmart
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 01:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by boggle
no offence but i wouldnt employ anyone who has a degree but no real world experience in their qualification...i have worked with too many graduates
who think they know what they are doing, but are complete idiots.....and they all want top dolla payments.....
still, good luck....may be worth trying places such as mclaren motorsport?
55ant - That's told you then! You have been wasting your time!
You only live once - make the most of it!
Radical Clubsport, Kwaker motor
'94 MX5 MK1, 1.8
F10 M5 - 600bhp Daily Hack
Range Rover Sport - Wife's Car
Mercedes A class - Son's Car
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coozer
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 01:03 PM |
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Go find an agency that can post you somewhere... upload your cv to Monster or Jobrapido and you'll get calls and emails for whatever your
looking for.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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whitestu
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 01:15 PM |
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If I was doing it all again I would spend a lot longer deciding what I wanted to do, then put a plan in place to achieve it, rather than just seeing
what job I could get that looked OK.
Stu
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Lightning
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 01:29 PM |
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I wanted to do car design, but at the interview at coventry uni,I argued with the interviewer as he made the general statement that the original mini
was a poor design. I thought he wanted me to argue for the mini ....apparently not. Did mechanical engineering instead.
Steve
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nick205
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 01:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
I wanted to do car design, but at the interview at coventry uni,I argued with the interviewer as he made the general statement that the original mini
was a poor design. I thought he wanted me to argue for the mini ....apparently not. Did mechanical engineering instead.
I'd have agreed in general terms with him and then asked him to identify 3 specific areas he felt were lacking and how they could be improved 
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jossey
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 02:17 PM |
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try learn this.
do you want chips with that ???
lol
seriously do something you want to do. dont end up 50 and wondering what ever happened.
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femster87
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 02:20 PM |
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sounds like someone has been crossed by a graduate,
Lol, if you dont give them jobs how do they learn then?
Mate go round motorsport firms and beg for internships you would find one.
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swanny
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 03:11 PM |
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i have a mate who has for the past few years worked at Le mans. he's mainly driven trucks, then been the man that fetches the wheels etc. but
his point was that jobs like that are quite hard to fill. as soon as blokes settle down they often dont want to spend weeks on end away from home.
i'd contact all the le mans teams, expecially the smaller privateers as a general dogsbody, offer to sleep on the garage floor and buy your own
chips/take your oen overalls etc. would be great experience, and you'll get to meet lots of other folk involved in motorsport the motor industry
in general.
try the classic too if all else fails.
paul
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indykid
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 03:50 PM |
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i finished BEng motorsport engineering last week. i'm going back to do a masters in mechanical engineering.
got a summer job at cummins where i was on placement for summer
tom
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boggle
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 04:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by femster87
sounds like someone has been crossed by a graduate,
Lol, if you dont give them jobs how do they learn then?
Mate go round motorsport firms and beg for internships you would find one.
the problem with graduates is they want to be on good money from the start....
any time served engineer is worth ten graduates.....i will allways say the best way is to start at the bottom and work up. i did 5 years as a
toolmaking apprentice, i then went on to teach nvq engineering gaining my cert ed in the process, i found i didnt like kids so went back into
engineering and completed my hnd and ba.....
just because you are a character, doesnt mean you have character....
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swanny
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 04:15 PM |
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any time served engineer is worth ten graduates....
depends what you want to do. there has to be a reason why the likes of Rolls Royce, BAE, etc take large numbers of reasonably well paid graduate
recruits every year and then invest huge sums in their training and development.
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 05:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by boggle
no offence but i wouldnt employ anyone who has a degree but no real world experience in their qualification...i have worked with too many graduates
who think they know what they are doing, but are complete idiots.....and they all want top dolla payments.....
still, good luck....may be worth trying places such as mclaren motorsport?
Very much depends on the trade - I don't think you will find many self taught nuclear physicists
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indykid
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 06:14 PM |
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but like most graduates that can't do a good time served engineer's job, most time served engineers can't do the job of a good
graduate.
as always, the bad ones spoil it for the good ones. now i have to go do a masters to prove that i'm one of the good ones
tom
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 07:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
If I could do it all again...
LINKY
[Edited on 24/5/10 by scootz]
I'm noticing a recurrent theme to your career choices scootz.
You appear to want to shoot people for a living. 
Nice work if you can get it.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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l0rd
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 07:47 PM |
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There is your dream job.
http://www.renaultf1.com/spip.php?page=rubrique&id_rubrique=162
If you get it, I want free tickets to all European races and also a complete outfit in XXL.
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scootz
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 08:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
If I could do it all again...
LINKY
[Edited on 24/5/10 by scootz]
I'm noticing a recurrent theme to your career choices scootz. You appear to want to shoot people for a living.
Nice work if you can get it.
Nah... don't think any 'normal' person really wants to shoot anyone. And I'm very normal!
I was just lucky enough to work with some Royal Marine Commandos when I was in Bosnia and they were a mighty impressive bunch! Head and shoulders
above their international counterparts.
It's Evolution Baby!
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Alan B
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cadebytigerVery much depends on the trade - I don't think you will find many self taught nuclear physicists
Hmmm...now that's a thought...maybe that's what been hampering my jobsearch?
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/5/10 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by indykid
but like most graduates that can't do a good time served engineer's job, most time served engineers can't do the job of a good
graduate.
Well said
There is a big mis-conception over the use of the term engineer as well. And it upsets a lot of people as well on both sides of the camp.
Most people who call themselves engineers are actually technicians. If you are an apprentice trained machinist or toolroom worker you are actually a
technician not an engineer.
You can only officially be an engineer with an appropriate 'profressional' qualification. That normally being at a minimum a degree in
your chosen specialism.
The difference being - the technician can make you whatever you ask them from a drawin or other relevant info. But the actual design and calculations,
manufacturing methods, tooling etc etc will all have been devised by an engineer. The engineer title carries with it a level of responsibility - if
the design or methods fail then its the engineers fault and not the technicians - this is where the extra level of understanding comes in.
With experience and job training a technician can become an engineer with no formal qualification - this is where it gets a little hazy and people get
uppity.
Yes there is no substitute for experience - we all learn from our daily experiences. A fresh graduate will not be as good as an experienced one
similarly with technicians. An experienced graduate will be able to do things a technician wont and visa versa.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 06:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
You can only officially be an engineer with an appropriate 'profressional' qualification. That normally being at a minimum a degree in
your chosen specialism.
Nope.
Im a member of the IET, and have gained my professional Electrical Engineer status and accreditation through experience and foundation academic
qualification.
I did an electrical apprentice, and through 10 years of management of staff, technical facilities and design of particular installations and systems,
have gained credibility enough to be accredited by the IET.
I agree with Boggle, however, there are very few engineers with the tact and ability to do what graduates do at a higher level with words rather than
fists.
IMO of course....
[Edited on 1-6-10 by MakeEverything]
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 1/6/10 at 06:16 PM |
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Another thing, Swanny;
Rolls Royce and Mercedes Daimler select their graduates through a rigourous selection programme, who are contracted to complete their graduateship or
forfeit the costs.
Balfour Beatty have the same but with 'Management' Graduates and trainees. My experience of this is that the ones that have come from the
tools have a greater understanding of people management and what reality is on the ground rather than what the business philosophy says it should look
like.
Personally, i dont think companies focus enough attention on the "Practical" elements of Graduateships or Manager development. Ive had my
share of run-in's which is why i feel confident enough to share my veiws.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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