omega0684
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 01:29 PM |
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WTD: Pictures of bike engine filter options
Afternoon all, hope your all well? i have another little request if possible.
In the light of now building 2 bike engine cars i need to see the filter options for BEC (obviously std air boxes arn't run most of the time).
both cars have 06 R1's in so any pictures of these would be great. its my understanding the engines have duel butterfly intake systems (whats
that all about?) but i would like to see the mounting of the back plates for pipercross/K&N filters etc to the iTB's
ALL PICTURES APPRECIATED
All the best
Alex
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 01:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
Afternoon all, hope your all well? i have another little request if possible.
In the light of now building 2 bike engine cars i need to see the filter options for BEC (obviously std air boxes arn't run most of the time).
both cars have 06 R1's in so any pictures of these would be great. its my understanding the engines have duel butterfly intake systems (whats
that all about?) but i would like to see the mounting of the back plates for pipercross/K&N filters etc to the iTB's
ALL PICTURES APPRECIATED
All the best
Alex
sorry got no pictures, but on the 06 (RVY) R1 its very easy to turn the throttle bodies around and reuse the standard airbox. A guy in RGB has done
this and i was looking at my engine last night and its very easy. You just need to modify the water hose into the block and the nipples on the TB
rubbers.
And i'd also like to know what the electronically controlled set of butterflyies are for.
[Edited on 21/10/10 by MK9R]
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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twybrow
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
Afternoon all, hope your all well? i have another little request if possible.
In the light of now building 2 bike engine cars i need to see the filter options for BEC (obviously std air boxes arn't run most of the time).
both cars have 06 R1's in so any pictures of these would be great. its my understanding the engines have duel butterfly intake systems (whats
that all about?) but i would like to see the mounting of the back plates for pipercross/K&N filters etc to the iTB's
ALL PICTURES APPRECIATED
All the best
Alex
So not man enough to drive a BEC, but foolinsh enough to help build two of them...!? 
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welderman
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:16 PM |
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Not 06 airbox but 03, so not sure if this will do you.
Joe
 
airbox
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adithorp
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:25 PM |
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I think I've read the secondary butterflys are supossed to improve drivability at low revs BUT Ive also read they're supposed to limit
throttle response at low revs to stop bikers throwing themselves off the back.
My airbox is just a folded ally' box thats got the base of the original airbox PU'd into it. Not as pretty as Joe's though.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
I think I've read the secondary butterflys are supossed to improve drivability at low revs BUT Ive also read they're supposed to limit
throttle response at low revs to stop bikers throwing themselves off the back.
My airbox is just a folded ally' box thats got the base of the original airbox PU'd into it. Not as pretty as Joe's though.
So have you binned your 2nd set???
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
Not 06 airbox but 03, so not sure if this will do you.
Joe
airbox
Where does the water go 
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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welderman
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 02:40 PM |
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Lol it's a little water tower for my rad
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adithorp
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 03:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
I think I've read the secondary butterflys are supossed to improve drivability at low revs BUT Ive also read they're supposed to limit
throttle response at low revs to stop bikers throwing themselves off the back.
My airbox is just a folded ally' box thats got the base of the original airbox PU'd into it. Not as pretty as Joe's though.
So have you binned your 2nd set???
As I couldn't find a definative answer for what they did i left them on.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 03:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
I think I've read the secondary butterflys are supossed to improve drivability at low revs BUT Ive also read they're supposed to limit
throttle response at low revs to stop bikers throwing themselves off the back.
My airbox is just a folded ally' box thats got the base of the original airbox PU'd into it. Not as pretty as Joe's though.
So have you binned your 2nd set???
As I couldn't find a definative answer for what they did i left them on.
no doubt if they are disconnected it will through the ECU into a wobbler!!! I'll have a ask around in the paddock, see if anyone knows.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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Flamez
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 04:26 PM |
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My tb have the second butterfly removed, no probs on cold starts etc.
Pics of air box in my photos.
my build mac1motorsports
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 05:09 PM |
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secondary throttles speed-up airflow at low revs and discourage reversion. All around less likely to get nasty bucking when the throttle is wound
open quickly at low RPM. The effect on the bike is that Malc ends up with your engine!
If running standard ECU then leave them on, they shouldn't do much harm. No aftermarket ECU supports them (as far as I am aware), and removing
them doesn't seem to cause problems on the GSXRs. For RGB you need to leave them in (part of the induction system).
Some bike racers remove them as at WOT they can only present a restriction.
Here's my airbox. I built it big cause that was what Mr Bates said works best, it has the filter inside (photo in archive of details).
 
Air_box_installed
Matt
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 05:13 PM |
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Thanks for info! BTW Induction is free in RGB
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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Blackbird Rush
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| posted on 21/10/10 at 08:17 PM |
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Alex,
pics of what i have done, original airbox base with ally top & sausage filter PU'd on.
Only one set of throttles on mine..
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