rb968
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| posted on 27/11/10 at 10:58 PM |
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Definitive answer to cover steering rack extensions?
To those of you lucky enough to have got through the IVA already.....( I am nearly ready)
What have you done to cover the steering rack extensions to the track rod ends that was acceptable and permanent enough for the man at VOSA?
Originally I intended to use heatshrink but now it seems that is not manufacturer quality and has to be destroyed to remove so whats the answer?
Can I use steering rack boots tie wrapped on? Convoluted tubing?
What worked for you?
Also, what about upper droplink/ball joint? Does that need covering as well?
Done a search but can't find a definitive answer !
Cheers
Rich
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 01:21 AM |
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My Vosa Tester made me remove the foam pipe insulation (it gets soggy and falls off, apparently) and then had me fit some 3/4" heater hose split
along its length and cable tied. (As if that isn't going to fall off eventually).
Edit bit.
The ball joint was OK but the lock nut needed covering as per the extensions.
[Edited on 28/11/10 by jollygreengiant]
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mgmiller
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 01:42 AM |
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use split convoluted tubing, works a treat
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gavin174
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 06:37 AM |
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it is impossible to get a definative anwer
as its down to tester interpretation on the day
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snapper
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 06:50 AM |
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Tifosi do a kit which is just a couple off electricians Armoured cable glands and some cable ties.
I have also used neoprene wrapped round, held on with tape and large shrink wrap over the top
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ReMan
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 08:37 AM |
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I thought most of the front suspension/steering had now become exempt from this silliness under the new IVA regs?
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907
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 09:16 AM |
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I'd go for the electrical glands.
Mine are actually the glands from old TIG torches.
Not been through IVA yet but I can't see a problem.
Cheers,
Paul G
 
rack lock nut cover
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stevegough
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 09:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
I thought most of the front suspension/steering had now become exempt from this silliness under the new IVA regs?
Yes, they have exempted the area between the wishbones
Uncontrolled when Printed
Figure 5
Contactable exterior surfaces of functional steering and suspension components are assessed against relevant radius requirements.
Items within the volume enclosed by suspension components are exempt from exterior projection assessment.
Unfortunately, the track rod end is still outside the box defined above, so you need to fit some cable glands as others have said.
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Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
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'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
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Mal
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 10:07 AM |
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My car passed 4 weeks ago with the cable gland cover, as shown on 907's photo.
Only the parts inside a flat plane linking the edges of the top and bottom wishbones are exempt.
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Andy_B
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 10:37 AM |
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Not being picky but if your looking for the above you are looking for a Shroud which is the gland cover...i am an ex elecrician ...and will be using
them too after reading this 
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 11:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
I'd go for the electrical glands.
Mine are actually the glands from old TIG torches.
Not been through IVA yet but I can't see a problem.
Cheers,
Paul G
rack lock nut cover
worked for me on SVA tester liked them...
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russbost
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 02:05 PM |
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Cable gland covers are definitely acceptable because Caterham used them on cars submitted for Type Approval - they therefore become a type approved
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myke pocock
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 03:30 PM |
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Right, I used the electrical shrouds and was told they wouldnt be sufficient on their own and I needed to get larger ones that covered the foam that I
wrapped round the lock nut. The bloke at carlisle VOSA, who was certainly not an arsy kind of guy, siad if he could feel the nut through the shroud it
would fail. As someone else said, it is realy up to the interpretation of the rules by the tester. If your looking to pass first time, best thing is
to go over the top with things. They can always, er... degrade and fall off later.
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stevegough
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 04:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
Right, I used the electrical shrouds and was told they wouldnt be sufficient on their own and I needed to get larger ones that covered the foam that I
wrapped round the lock nut. The bloke at carlisle VOSA, who was certainly not an arsy kind of guy, siad if he could feel the nut through the shroud it
would fail. As someone else said, it is realy up to the interpretation of the rules by the tester. If your looking to pass first time, best thing is
to go over the top with things. They can always, er... degrade and fall off later.
These testers 'different interpretation of the rules' can be a pain! Yes - he might be able to feel the nut through the shroud, but the
'rule' is quite clear - it has to meet the 2.5mm radius - if it does - it passes!
Yes?
No?
 
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Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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rb968
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 05:16 PM |
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Many thanks for all the replies.
I will get hold of some shrouds/gland covers for the 22mm locking nut and use convoluted tuning on the hexagonal extensions along to the track rod
end.
Looks like I need a similar shroud for the 24mm locking nut on the top joint or a 24 mm nut cover. Will keep looking
Thanks again.
Rich
[Edited on 28/11/10 by rb968]
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907
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 05:33 PM |
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You can get the proper thing for the top joint.
I think mine came off eBay. Just haven't fitted them yet.
Paul G
Edit to add pic
 
transit dl covers
[Edited on 28/11/10 by 907]
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ReMan
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 05:39 PM |
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"Looks like I need a similar shroud for the 24mm locking nut on the top joint or a 24 mm nut cover. Will keep looking
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I would say not, as per the exempted area mentione.
Not saying you should'nt , but NEED not
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rb968
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 08:48 PM |
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I was going to play it safe assuming Mr VOSA could argue that the top of the nut was not within the imaginary box created within the wishbones?
Will find something suitable just in case ;-)
Rich
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40inches
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| posted on 28/11/10 at 09:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rb968
I was going to play it safe assuming Mr VOSA could argue that the top of the nut was not within the imaginary box created within the wishbones?
Will find something suitable just in case ;-)
Rich
Anything inside the wheel is also exempt 
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