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unijacko67

posted on 27/11/13 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
Oops, hot air into inlet,

I've positioned my foam air filter directly behind the radiator, also its near the top where the radiator is the hottest. I have very little room and at the time this was the easy option, but realise its not ideal. I could probably move it away from the rad with a lot of messing so will it be worth it. I've also noticed it doesn't rev out and hit the rev limiter in top gear which as its geared down it should do with ease. This could be some sort of speed limiter in the ecu, but wondered if the air filter position could be partly to blame. I've had it on the rolling road, but I'm sure he would have done the power runs in the lower gears? which showed everything to be fine.

I also have these fault codes, but think they are all to do with the non existent abs.

P0401
C0114
P1104
P122a
P0055
C1555

These codes are from the OBD2 Honda S2000 AP2 or 2007





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coyoteboy

posted on 27/11/13 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
Hard to tell how bad it will be on an individual installation. On my turbocharged tin top, leaving the entire intake off and just having the turbo suck from behind the rad means I see up to Ambient+~35C intake air temps off-boost despite having a water to air intercooler. With the correct pipework installed I see Ambient+5>10C.

[Edited on 27/11/13 by coyoteboy]






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adithorp

posted on 27/11/13 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
Can you make some sort of shield between the rad and filter and then add a cool air feed pipe.

P0401 is an EGR fault and p0055 is an O2 sensor fault from memory (christ thats sad) and I could look up the rest tomorrow if you want with the exact fault for those.

[Edited on 27/11/13 by adithorp]





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Brett Jones

posted on 27/11/13 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Andrew,

I've had a look in my manual for the 2006 model and I can only find one of the codes you listed.

P0401 EXhaust Gas Recirculation Insufficient Flow Detected

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unijacko67

posted on 27/11/13 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Can you make some sort of shield between the rad and filter and then add a cool air feed pipe.

P0401 is an EGR fault from memory (christ thats sad) and I could look up the rest tomorrow if you want.


The air filter is actually pressing up against the radiator so think it needs moving.

I think I might get some pipe and move the air filter if poss, I've seen some alloy pipe kits on ebay, but £60 with a crap filter and I only need some pipe.

I've removed the EGR so that makes sense, I've only the first pre cat sensor connected also. Cold air pump also removed.

One code seems to be power steering which has gone as has the ABS.

Any more info on the codes and what they actually mean regarding my set-up would be good, Thanks.

PS is the 02 sensor the bit that goes into the inlet pipe inbetween air filter and the throttle body. That is still fitted, but could be faulty?

Thanks Brett, Cheers for looking.

[Edited on 27/11/13 by unijacko67]





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adithorp

posted on 27/11/13 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
O2 sensor is one of the lambda sensors. Quick search shows P0055 is bank one, sensor 3, heater circuit.

That'll be a post cat sensor used to check the cats effectiveness though sensor three is unusual. Normally you have sensor 1 before the cat and sensor 2 after it. If there's a sensor 3 it's a second post cat sensor further back in the system.





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unijacko67

posted on 27/11/13 at 10:44 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Adi, There was only two sensors on the original exhaust I've fitted the first (pre cat), but not even connected the 2nd, but seem to remember someone telling me to connect it and just tie it up in clean air under the car, would that be a good option as I can do that with ease. I'm not bothered about the fault codes as long as they don't affect the running of the car, but feel I should know what they are as then I can check for any additional ones if issues appear.





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adithorp

posted on 27/11/13 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
It could be the software recognises/names the second sensor as sensor 3. The post cat sensor in 9/10 systems is used only to check the cat is working by comparing pre/post cat readings and doesn't effect the running. In a few it does and it's difficult to know which. Putting it in free air will probably not help the running. Think the code is a heater failure (prob' open circuit) so it not being connected will be the cause.





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unijacko67

posted on 27/11/13 at 11:27 PM Reply With Quote
Makes sense about open circuit on the post cat sensor so;

P0401 ............Not a problem, EGR removed
C0114
P1104
P122a
P0055 ........... Not a problem, post cat sensor not connected,
C1555

As coyoteboy has pointed out the engine must be sucking in very hot air so I need to sort that.
something like this may help http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-S2000-AP-00-05-2-0-COLD-AIR-SPORTS-ALUMINIUM-INDUCTION-INTAKE-FILTER-KIT-/350794845838?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarPar ts_SM&fits=Model%3AS2000&hash=item51ad008e8e


2 down 4 to go. Cheers.

[Edited on 27/11/13 by unijacko67]





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adithorp

posted on 28/11/13 at 09:43 AM Reply With Quote
P0055 O2 bank1, sensor3. Heater circuit resistance
P0401 EGR. insufficient flow

After that it's not easy as Honda seem to be keeping the none generic codes to themselves. P1--- codes are manufacturer specific and can vary in meaning between makers.
I can't find listed but P1104 or P122A for Honda but...
In P1104 the second 1 indicates it's emmision management related (fuel or air). the 04 is often MAF sensor ground fault.
In P122a the first 2 indicates it's injector circuit related (fuel or air) The 2A I can't trace.
Google might help but be carefull the results are for Honda or they may be incorrect.

C--- codes are chassis faults rather than engine so probably related to your ABS. Again I've no listing.

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unijacko67

posted on 28/11/13 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Adi, you are a gent. Brett J has also sent me a load of Honda S2000 codes so thank's for those, bit busy tonight, but will have a look later if I get chance.

Will the car run without the speed sensor plugged into the gearbox, I realise I wont get a speedo reading, but it would rule in or out for the "top speed limiter" if it has one.

Cheers for the help.





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The Black Flash

posted on 28/11/13 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by unijacko67


I think I might get some pipe and move the air filter if poss, I've seen some alloy pipe kits on ebay, but £60 with a crap filter and I only need some pipe.



There are loads of individual silicone hose and pipe sections of all shapes and sizes on the bay, search "silicone hose".

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unijacko67

posted on 28/11/13 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
Silicone hoses

Cheers, I will search the ebay, I just need to have a measure up for diameter of pipe.





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