Colnago_Man
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:27 AM |
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House electrical advice
Morning.
Thinking of changing the lighting in the bathroom to some nice recessed downlights. Am okay just cutting some holes in a ceiling then moving the loft
lagging to one side , fitting the lights in the holes then putting the lagging back over the lights. Or will I need to fit something over the lights
to stop the lagging sitting on top of the them?
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davie dickson
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:33 AM |
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Proper flame-retardant hoods are cheaply available for downlighters. Definately recomended.
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:38 AM |
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Definatly DO NOT put the lagging back over! Halogens should have a miniumum clearance of 100mm all round, or flame covers fitted which are not that
cheap!
Also need to be IP 65 rated if it is possible to touch the lights while in contact with water, ie while having a shower.
Im pretty sure that its also Regs to use low voltage
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:51 AM |
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There are regulations governing the type of light fittings that you can use in a bathroom, depending on where abouts on the ceiling you intend to
install them in relation to the plumbing fittings (bath, shower or hand basin etc.).
A bathroom is generally devided into three areas each with diffferent requirements. Your local plumbing/electrical supplier should have a leaflet
explaining these areas and the relevant requirements.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 11:54 AM |
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If you go that route, technically you shouldnt touch it if you are not qualified. Part P has changed a lot of things.......
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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twybrow
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:11 PM |
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I thought a DIYer cant touch any major electrics in a bathroom (or kitchen). You can change a like-for-like fitting, but not to something new. Could
be wrong however.
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
I thought a DIYer cant touch any major electrics in a bathroom (or kitchen). You can change a like-for-like fitting, but not to something new. Could
be wrong however.
By the letter of the law...pretty much spot on! But not so much DIY as anyone who is not qualified. Always used to be that as long as you were
competent you could do pretty much anything electrical in domestic premisis. Those days have long gone!
[Edited on 16/3/07 by iiyama]
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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locogeoff
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:24 PM |
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Bit of a thread hijack but how difficult would it be to become certified to do you're own house stuff, given that I've got an engineering
degree BEng not BSc which means that I had to do a certain amount of practical electrical installation work etc rather than just the theory
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:35 PM |
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Need to contact you local college bud, and to be honest the beaurocracy is BS.
My father is a fully qualified elctrical engineer and yet he is not qualified in the eyes of authority for any electrical work. And get this.....he
tought the 16th edition for 25 years! A collegue f his has left lecturing and gone self employed, hes had to take the Part P qualifications too.....
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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nitram38
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 01:56 PM |
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P*sses me off that I have to take the part P even though I have been an Electrician for 27 years.
A Builder can take a 2 day course and be part P certified. He can then rewire your house.
Who would you trust to do the work?
Just another Money spinner I am afraid.
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 02:00 PM |
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Just another tax dude.....
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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Spyderman
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 02:15 PM |
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Who's to say these modifications weren't carried out before the change of rules? 
Spyderman
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iiyama
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 02:17 PM |
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Unless you have an old stock of cable, the colours have changed....
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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froggy
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 06:25 PM |
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i had grief with recessed lights when i built my house as the building inspector wasnt bothered about me fitting hoods and the fitting manufacturers
said that the hoods would shorten bulb life but the structural warranty people said i had to fit them i have over eighty recessed lights in my
house and the hoods were £7.50 each .
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darrens
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 06:26 PM |
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there is also the extortionate cost of registering for Part P which is then renewed at another extortionate cost annually!!
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JoelP
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| posted on 16/3/07 at 06:59 PM |
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NICEIC was over £400 last year, im not renewing it again now as my contractor is registered.
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